There certainly are some possibilities out there to mitigate impact.
Unfortunately, fish passage is only one part of the overall impact.
Dams effect water temperature, stream turbidity, water flow, etc which
often ends up messing with the whole ecosystem of the river. Water
temperatures get warmer,
>Yeah, or the entire salmon species. lol
>
Those are because of older designs. Newer ones can take that into account. and
there are ways to retrofit current dams so that their impact on fish species
are minimized.
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Adobe® Co
>Isn't there a large environmental impact on traditional hydro electric dams?
>(Not trying to be snarky...just asking)
>
>I read something a few weeks ago that New Jersey is doing something with a
>wind farm off the coast (that intersts me as I am from NJ originally)
>
There is some, but depending
we will be using coal for years to come, barring a total turnaround for the
nuclear industry. we'll be using natural gas, oil, wind, solar, hydro,
geothermal, waste material- all kinds of technologies. coal, natural gas,
and fuel oil are the three kings of us energy production. nuclear provides a
b
> RoMunn wrote:
> What's more, we have the largest coal deposits in the world.
But the largest natural gas deposits too - we're the Saudi Arabia of
NG - which can be drilled instead of mined and burns clean.
So why the hell would we want to use coal when NG is cheaper, cleaner,
and we already hav
Solar is a fantasy as a primary electricity generating technology.
What's more, we have the largest coal deposits in the world. Is Obama going
to tell the state of West Virginia that they can't export coal to other
countries? What other industries is he going to dictate to?
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008
Yeah, or the entire salmon species. lol
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Jeff Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Exactly... Some super sucker minnow will be found that is endangered. Or
> some rare slime mold to prevent the installation of solar or wind
~~~
s that are
screaming for them.
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Isn't there a large environmental impact on traditional hydro electric dams?
(N
Isn't there a large environmental impact on traditional hydro electric dams?
(Not trying to be snarky...just asking)
I read something a few weeks ago that New Jersey is doing something with a
wind farm off the coast (that intersts me as I am from NJ originally)
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Lar
>seriouslynuclear, solar, thermo, and wind is a great way to go...
>coal is a beautiful fuel. i enjoy it..
>but it is pretty nasty stuff, even if it is distiled before combustion takes
>place.
One option no one has mentioned that is about the cleanest and is definitely
renewable, and almost infin
I would agree that if there were safer jobs (note even higher paying jobs)
they would be welcomed.
Unfortuantely, West Virginia is not a hot bed for any othe kind og business,
at least not right now.
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you know, I suspect that if th
Actually, if we just made change easy and "a no brainer", we could cut
the typical per person energy requirement in half or less, with
absolutely no change to our consumer lifestyle.
Things like this:
http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=news.nr_news#tvs
Add to that microwind, passive solar buil
seriouslynuclear, solar, thermo, and wind is a great way to go...
coal is a beautiful fuel. i enjoy it..
but it is pretty nasty stuff, even if it is distiled before combustion takes
place.
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you know, I suspect that if the people in West Virginia had alternate
jobs that were less dangerous and paid just as well, they would take
them. Or do they just *like* mountaintop removal? I suspect not.
Getting back to Robert's point though -- you can build a lot of solar
for the cost of a power
I am from West Virginia and I can tell you it would upset more than just a
few people.
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Our choice is use coal or stop using 70% of all electricity in the country.
> Are you prepared to stop using computers? I'm not.
>
> Let'
Our choice is use coal or stop using 70% of all electricity in the country.
Are you prepared to stop using computers? I'm not.
Let's see what the people of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia think of
bankrupting the coal industry.
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Dana wrote:
> but there curr
but there currently is no way to use coal in a clean way.
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry.html?q=blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tell
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