Re: This is long but worth the read

2013-03-04 Thread Bruce Sorge
So Eric, My brother in law sent me his take on this and I am cutting and pasting his answer here: Notice that he states under certain circumstances and this refers to contractors. Civilians are a different matter. > Civilians can be less expensive than soldiers under certain > circumstances. T

Re: This is long but worth the read

2013-02-28 Thread Bruce Sorge
;s "Drift". It has a lot of > good info on how we have outsourced our military. > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:sor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:09 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: This is long but wor

Re: This is long but worth the read

2013-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I know what was involved there. That is going to be studied for years to come. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > No need my friend. I welcome any comments. Not to shut anyone down, but > hopefully to clarify things. > > On Feb 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote:

RE: This is long but worth the read

2013-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
ot of good info on how we have outsourced our military. Eric -Original Message- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:sor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:09 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: This is long but worth the read I thought so as well, but that's not entirely true

Re: This is long but worth the read

2013-02-28 Thread Bruce Sorge
I thought so as well, but that's not entirely true. Let me see if I can remember what Mike (my brother-in-law) told me. Contractors do not require much training since one of the requirements for their job is to have experience in it. Also, contractors are not paid benefits from the Army, the c

RE: This is long but worth the read

2013-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
ity Subject: Re: This is long but worth the read The budget is large because in small part of the tremendous amount of waste that goes on in the military. I'll not get into specific details but there are hundreds of thousands of dollars of waste, especially down range. Individually we do out best

RE: This is long but worth the read

2013-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
, February 28, 2013 4:52 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: This is long but worth the read Some good stuff, Bruce. Question for you, though. The Military portion of the US budget is significantly out of proportion to other countries. Some of that is because we've chosen to be a bigger mil

Re: This is long but worth the read

2013-02-28 Thread Bruce Sorge
No need my friend. I welcome any comments. Not to shut anyone down, but hopefully to clarify things. On Feb 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > You were in 73 Easting. I think i ought to shut up. > > larry > ~~

Re: This is long but worth the read

2013-02-28 Thread Bruce Sorge
Wich is why the Army did away with it for the most part. There are still some in service, but they are usually reserved for training purposes only. In a mechanized infantry company, it's the first sergeants vehicle. The LAV is about the same armor wise as a Bradley. I have been in them when the

Re: This is long but worth the read

2013-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You were in 73 Easting. I think i ought to shut up. larry On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > The budget is large because in small part of the tremendous amount of waste > that goes on in the military. I'll not get into specific details but there > are hundreds of thousand

Re: This is long but worth the read

2013-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
yes and a jacketed or ap 7.62 MM round could punch right through the sides and front of the M-113. I'd prefer something a bit more modern, like the LAV-III. When I was serving in Europe we just saw the M113 as a deathtrap. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > The budget is lar

Re: This is long but worth the read

2013-02-28 Thread Bruce Sorge
The budget is large because in small part of the tremendous amount of waste that goes on in the military. I'll not get into specific details but there are hundreds of thousands of dollars of waste, especially down range. Individually we do out best to curb some of this waste, but a lot of it is

Re: This is long but worth the read

2013-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
Some good stuff, Bruce. Question for you, though. The Military portion of the US budget is significantly out of proportion to other countries. Some of that is because we've chosen to be a bigger military policeman for the world. Other parts of it seem to be just historical inertia and lobbying fr