RE: Climate Change Settled

*snerk* -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 1:24 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Climate Change Settled Or maybe we should poll the ones that wear diapers and attempt to kidnap people. I bet they'd have

Re: Climate Change Settled

Or maybe we should poll the ones that wear diapers and attempt to kidnap people. I bet they'd have some good theories too. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If we're going get our science from the Apollo Astronauts, I'm going > with the ones who saw UFOs. > http://www.syti.n

Re: Climate Change Settled

He's Hansen's replacement at NASA. He does climate modeling and all the models are always wrong. On a good note, Hansen is now making big bucks ans so will he. . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Good education on the climate change models. > > Sam, you should take a look at thi

Re: Climate Change Settled

Hail Eris! On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:03 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > Were we closer I'd be looking for golden apples to throw. Might do it > anyway... just for the ceremony of it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology n

Re: Climate Change Settled

This one: http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/screenhunter_13-jan-05-07-45.jpg . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:03 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Cooling throughout much of the country? I thought we were talking about > GLOBAL warming, not American warming. Google "global temperatures by year",

Re: Climate Change Settled

Good education on the climate change models. Sam, you should take a look at this. http://www.ted.com/talks/gavin_schmidt_the_emergent_patterns_of_climate_change ᐧ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazo

Re: Climate Change Settled

Cooling throughout much of the country? I thought we were talking about GLOBAL warming, not American warming. Google "global temperatures by year", and then pick your chart. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Sam wrote: > > Who's your scientist? Is it Hanson? Remember the temperature has been >

Re: Climate Change Settled

Who's your scientist? Is it Hanson? Remember the temperature has been flat for the last 17-1/2 years: http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/ Whither U.S. Climate? By James Hansen, Reto Ruedy, Jay Glascoe and Makiko Sato — August 1999 Empirical evidence does not lend much support

Re: Climate Change Settled

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Sam wrote: > > Everything about the planet heating up has been faked. > EVERYTHING? Really? you believe that? You truly believe that not only are humans not responsible for global warming, but that world actually is not warming at all ~~

Re: Climate Change Settled

1) science doesn't work by mob rule. 2) http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/05/30/global-warming-alarmists-caught-doctoring-97-percent-consensus-claims/ 3) it's a fraud because we read the emails about "hide the decline" and the fake hockey stick graph and the peer review scandal. NASA

Re: Climate Change Settled

What well respected climatologist do you believe? . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:11 PM, GMoney wrote: > > I've said i don't understand ALL of the science. if i did, i'd be a well > respected climatologist. Are you claiming to fully understand all of the > science behind global warming? Answer

Re: Climate Change Settled

Sam, there is scientific consensus on climate change. To say that it is a fraud is being ridiculous. ᐧ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffus

Re: Climate Change Settled

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Sam wrote: > > This is awesome. The next time an AGW-denying creationist vomits out > their > > brain droppings, I'll lay this one on them: "God created humans and > caused > > them to contribute to global warming. We need to teach the controversy!" > > Wait... a

Re: Climate Change Settled

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:49 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Most of these right wingers who deny AGW, also support the questioning of > evolution and the teaching of myths in the science classroom. Not even close. You're talking about maybe 1% of conservatives questioning evolution vs all the folks that

Re: Climate Change Settled

Were we closer I'd be looking for golden apples to throw. Might do it anyway... just for the ceremony of it. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. ~~

Re: Climate Change Settled

This one is. Hey..that brings us full circle!!! Most of these right wingers who deny AGW, also support the questioning of evolution and the teaching of myths in the science classroom. Well if that's the case, we can teach AGW in our science classrooms...right along side creationismeven

Re: Climate Change Settled

I would guess AGW followers are also FSM followers. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the case. . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:39 PM, GMoney wrote: > > My noodley-appendaged deity has no official dogmatic position when it comes > to the truth or falsity of human caused global climate change. > > Howev

Re: Climate Change Settled

My noodley-appendaged deity has no official dogmatic position when it comes to the truth or falsity of human caused global climate change. However, all of our noodely-appendages politicians seem to have their minds made up. Lame brained limp dicks the lot of them. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:29 P

Re: Climate Change Settled

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:22 PM, GMoney wrote: > And of course, hidden with your post, is the #1 problem with climate change > debate...the fact that it's considered a POLITICAL debate. > In most cases you can strike the modifier but you do bring up a great point. In my mind, debates (or a

Re: Climate Change Settled

I thought it was religious not political. . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:22 PM, GMoney wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:13 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey > wrote: > >> Actually I posted the formula for political debate threads on this list >> some years back... I'd have to find it again but only rar

Re: Climate Change Settled

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:13 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > Actually I posted the formula for political debate threads on this list > some years back... I'd have to find it again but only rarely has it not > been met. > And of course, hidden with your post, is the #1 problem with climate chang

Re: Climate Change Settled

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:08 PM, GMoney wrote: > That's awesome..The Descent Into Madness. Actually I posted the formula for political debate threads on this list some years back... I'd have to find it again but only rarely has it not been met. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.e

Re: Climate Change Settled

That's awesome..The Descent Into Madness. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:47 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Cameron Childress > wrote: > > > "Because uh uh uh uh OBAMA!" > > > > https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5574176000/h40C1115A/ > > > > We have reache

Re: Climate Change Settled

Try using common sense Not sure what part your son is laughing at but I'm thinking you should go with the other guy . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Maureen wrote: > > My son, who is an astrophysicist is laughing at this. Who should I > believe? Some guy I never heard of, or the one who ha

Re: Climate Change Settled

My son, who is an astrophysicist is laughing at this. Who should I believe? Some guy I never heard of, or the one who has an education I funded? On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Sam wrote: > > "In the media, it was being called a theory. Obviously, they didn't > know what it means to be a theo

Re: Climate Change Settled

You found one part you disagree with and use it to dismiss all of it? . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Vivec wrote: > > He is relating the amount of CO2 in his spacecraft , to the effect of CO2 > on the planet? > > That is a completely invalid analogy, there is no comparison. >

Re: Climate Change Settled

And the pigeon dances... . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Sam wrote: > >> They do. I was wondering if you were the guy asking Obama if he wanted >> to "hit this" > > > Good point and thank you for giving me a way to clearly identif

Re: Climate Change Settled

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > "Because uh uh uh uh OBAMA!" > > https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5574176000/h40C1115A/ > > We have reached the end. > https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5982690816/hE88F1BB4/ No, *now* we have reached the end :) Until Later! C. Hatton

Re: Climate Change Settled

He is relating the amount of CO2 in his spacecraft , to the effect of CO2 on the planet? That is a completely invalid analogy, there is no comparison. ᐧ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adob

Re: Climate Change Settled

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Sam wrote: > They do. I was wondering if you were the guy asking Obama if he wanted > to "hit this" Good point and thank you for giving me a way to clearly identify the end of any thread you participate in. "Because uh uh uh uh OBAMA!" https://i.chzbgr

Re: Climate Change Settled

They do. I was wondering if you were the guy asking Obama if he wanted to "hit this" . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Sam wrote: > >> Are you in Colorado? > > > The whole state of Colorado doesn't take you seriously anymore eithe

Re: Climate Change Settled

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Sam wrote: > Are you in Colorado? The whole state of Colorado doesn't take you seriously anymore either huh? ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldf

Re: Climate Change Settled

Are you in Colorado? . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Sam wrote: > >> You mean like this? > > > Be careful not to alter your age on your Facebook profile, it might mean > that you never existed and are merely the result a worldwide

Re: Climate Change Settled

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Sam wrote: > You mean like this? Be careful not to alter your age on your Facebook profile, it might mean that you never existed and are merely the result a worldwide conspiracy where and overwhelming majority of people claimed that you actually existed. Neverm

Re: Climate Change Settled

"In the media, it was being called a theory. Obviously, they didn't know what it means to be a theory," says Cunningham who has a B.S. in Physics (with honors) from University of California at Los Angeles and an M.S., with distinction; Institute of Geophysics And Planetary Sciences, with completed

Re: Climate Change Settled

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/noaanasa-dramatically-altered-us-temperatures-after-the-year-2000/ You mean like this? . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> Sounds like you can't defend your position, so

Re: Climate Change Settled

If we're going get our science from the Apollo Astronauts, I'm going with the ones who saw UFOs. http://www.syti.net/UFOSightings.html On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Sam wrote: > > http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-bannister/apollo-astronaut-climate-alarmism-biggest-fraud-field-science > > A

Re: Climate Change Settled

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Sam wrote: > > Sounds like you can't defend your position, so you just make jokes > about how stupid the people in the know are. I am not in the business of defending scientific consensus, but keep digging up the kooky blog posts. Keep that faith. You are doing w

Re: Climate Change Settled

Sounds like you can't defend your position, so you just make jokes about how stupid the people in the know are. Whatever works for you. . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > just need O'Reilly to chime in with, "Shit heats up and cools down...you > can't explain that"

Re: Climate Change Settled

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-bannister/apollo-astronaut-climate-alarmism-biggest-fraud-field-science Apollo Astronaut: Climate Alarmism Is the ‘Biggest Fraud in the Field of Science’ "To me, it's almost laughable, it's the biggest fraud in the field of science,certainly in my lifetime

Re: Climate Change Settled

just need O'Reilly to chime in with, "Shit heats up and cools down...you can't explain that" On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Sam wrote: > > > I'm guessing he meant to say they have the same variation in > > temperature. > > > > Gu

Re: Climate Change Settled

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Sam wrote: > I'm guessing he meant to say they have the same variation in > temperature. > Guessing certainly seems like the right way to go if you are anti-science. Keep the faith Sam. -Cameron ... ~~~

Re: Climate Change Settled

Such a hater. Why is that? . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > doesn't this sum up the conservative position on global warming...base your > stance on misinformation. > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfus

Re: Climate Change Settled

I'm guessing he meant to say they have the same variation in temperature. But use what ever flub you can to defend your point since facts won't work. . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCF_Yy3oFNo > > > > > ~~~

Re: Climate Change Settled

I'm shocked. The temperature on Mars is the same as the earth, so therefore human activity is not affecting earth climate. And said with a straight face. ᐧ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/

Re: Climate Change Settled

doesn't this sum up the conservative position on global warming...base your stance on misinformation. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCF_Yy3oFNo > > > > >

Re: Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

"Remember too that nine of the 10 hottest years since 1880 have been in the past decade." When using the processed data. When looking at the raw data, the top ten way heavily towards the 1930's, 40's, and 50's (think of the dust bowl). Apparently, someone has a magic box that they put the data

Re: Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

That's a "science box" and if you don't believe you're anti-science. . On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Remember too that nine of the 10 hottest years since 1880 have been > in the past decade." > > When using the processed data. When looking at the raw data, the top

Re: Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Over the last few days several news articles have emerged announcing that > Arctic sea ice is growing, not shrinking, and therefore the climate is not > warming but cooling. > Common sense would agree. More Ice means cooling, less ice warming. I

Re: Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

Over the last few days several news articles have emerged announcing that Arctic sea ice is growing, not shrinking, and therefore the climate is not warming but cooling. This is not the result of scientific data disagreeing, this is simply poor journalism. Phil Plait

Re: Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

wonder how long it will take before a link to wattsupwiththat.com is presented as a retort. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > > http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/09/10/climate_change_sea_ice_global_cooling_and_other_nonsense.html > > > ~~~

Re: Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

No need, it's Slate. Did you read it? He says these Jaw dropping claims may be misleading. Global warming religious nutters make me laugh. . On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > wonder how long it will take before a link to wattsupwiththa

Re: climate Change denier admits he's wrong

You're doing it wrong also. Prof Curry called your boy a blatant liar. Warming has stalled but CO2 production hasn't. . On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >  This guy was a noted opponent of the AGW hypothesis. He had the > integrity to change is opinion when the data co

Re: climate Change denier admits he's wrong

This guy was a noted opponent of the AGW hypothesis. He had the integrity to change is opinion when the data confirmed the hypothesis. That's a lot more than you can say about the other deniers, like Tim Ball. Moreover the data replicates most of the other findings, such as the infamous hockey st

Re: climate Change denier admits he's wrong

We need an Al Gore movie to get things rolling On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Sam wrote: > > Police brutality? > > . > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:13 AM, GMoney wrote: > > > > So...we're all good then? *phew* > > > > Glad that's overwhat's next? > > > > ~~

Re: climate Change denier admits he's wrong

You're reading it wrong. . On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Sam wrote: > >> Surprise! No warming in last 11 years >> > > 11 years?  You're doing it wrong. > > -Cameron ~~~

Re: climate Change denier admits he's wrong

Police brutality? . On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:13 AM, GMoney wrote: > > So...we're all good then? *phew* > > Glad that's overwhat's next? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusio

Re: climate Change denier admits he's wrong

So...we're all good then? *phew* Glad that's overwhat's next? On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Sam wrote: > > PS! > > Surprise! No warming in last 11 years > > http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/30/surprise-no-warming-in-last-11-years/ > > . > > ~

Re: climate Change denier admits he's wrong

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Sam wrote: > Surprise! No warming in last 11 years > 11 years? You're doing it wrong. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Antho

Re: climate Change denier admits he's wrong

PS! Surprise! No warming in last 11 years http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/30/surprise-no-warming-in-last-11-years/ . ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/14302

Re: climate Change denier admits he's wrong

I'm too busy to read this garbage and debunk it myself so I let google do it for me and came up with this: http://www.climatedepot.com/a/13375/Befuddled-Warmist-Richard-Muller-Declares-Skeptics-Should-Convert-to-Believers-Because-His-Study-Shows-the-Earth-Has-Warmed-Since-the-1950s--Climate-Depot

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Gruss G wrote: > > > Scott wrote: > > This brings me back to what Cam said earlier, 'a > > sane, measured effort' to reduce CO2 emissions > > Yup, Cam's delivered the credited response: "a sane and measured > effort to reduce CO2 emissions" > > Any disagreements?

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

> Scott wrote: > This brings me back to what Cam said earlier, 'a > sane, measured effort' to reduce CO2 emissions Yup, Cam's delivered the credited response: "a sane and measured effort to reduce CO2 emissions" Any disagreements?

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530275,00.html Tuesday, July 07, 2009 Prolonged Sunspot Drought Ends as New Spots AppearPrior to the low-activity period, astronomers had been predicting that the next peak in solar activity, expected in 2013, might be one of the most active in many decades. Th

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > As I've said forever, we won't understand our climate anytime soon so > making a call one way or another is asinine - which is why lots of > Republicans like too. Don't forget the Democrats on the other end of the spectrum. :D -- Scott St

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

The way I look at it is kind if in the middle. Do I think humans are the only cause of the warming (or even a large cause)? No. Do I think humans are a contributing factor? Most likely. Can we do anything about our impact? Most definitely. Will any changes we make actually make a difference?

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

> Grant wrote: > impact that it's going to have on _our_ species. Big deal that 55 billion > years ago there was 4-5x more CO2. How is that even relevant? The earth will > survive no matter what we do or how much CO2 there is. We however will not. And, the interesting thing about scientific theor

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

That's an apt analogy, because I suspect the only reason caring for our environment matters to Robert is because doing so will have a direct impact on short-term profit. 2009/7/14 Michael Grant > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Gruff Goat wrote: > Robert, you kind of remind me of a big toba

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Gruff Goat wrote: > > Oh heck. I'll jump in: > Gawd, I _hate_ it when I agree with Gruss. However I think he's totally on point here. The problem I see with Robert's argument is that he seems to be arguing from the position of the planet vs. the position of th

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

No...good point...carry on. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Scott wrote: >> >> Is it possible for you to ever rebut something without coming across >> as a pompous ass? >> > > Naw, seriously though Scott, it's our thing.  You guys make fun of me > and I be a pompous ass.  

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> Scott wrote: > > Is it possible for you to ever rebut something without coming across > as a pompous ass? > Naw, seriously though Scott, it's our thing. You guys make fun of me and I be a pompous ass. It's what we do. I suppose one of us could stand down, but do you really think any of us is

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> Scott wrote: > > Is it possible for you to ever rebut something without coming across > as a pompous ass? > Is it possible for you to ask a question to which the answer is not obvious? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community

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Is it possible for you to ever rebut something without coming across as a pompous ass? On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> RoMunn wrote: >> What, are you standing in for Gruss or something? No one said we should toss >> out all other research on the subject. What I have specif

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> RoMunn wrote: > What, are you standing in for Gruss or something? No one said we should toss > out all other research on the subject. What I have specifically said is that > our ability to influence the planetary climate is minimal compared to the > forces of nature that have been at work on the

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > I think the most important thing you said here was 'I think it's worth > continuing forward with a sane, measured effort to reduce CO2 > emissions...' with emphasis on 'sane, measured'.  I think that is > where a lot of global warming zealots l

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

I think the most important thing you said here was 'I think it's worth continuing forward with a sane, measured effort to reduce CO2 emissions...' with emphasis on 'sane, measured'. I think that is where a lot of global warming zealots lose some cred. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Cameron Chi

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > What, are you standing in for Gruss or something? Actually - confession time - I *AM* Gruss! Muahahahahahaha! Just kidding. > No one said we should toss > out all other research on the subject. What I have specifically said is that > our a

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

What I think is kind if funny (in a sick, demented kind of way) is that if you are wrong, no one will be around to say 'I told you so' On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Judah Mc wrote: > >> >> Uh, with the exception of the words "solar minimu

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Judah Mc wrote: > > Uh, with the exception of the words "solar minimum" every single thing > in this paragraph is wrong. Just, well, wrong. I would suggest you > start with the various IPCC reports and then move to recent relevant > work such as the age of seasona

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > It isn't a matter of consensus, it is a matter of record. There is a solar > minimum right now and that has led to significantly lower temperatures than > predicted by global warming advocates, which again demonstrates the > limitations of curr

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Cameron C wrote: > > > Solar activity can (and does) effect our climate. But that doesn't > mean we should toss out all other research on it's ear as a result. > What, are you standing in for Gruss or something? No one said we should toss out all other research

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Casey > Dougall wrote: > > Seems like that would be a different department... Like a group who looks > > into sun activity and how it interacts with the solar system. > > Solar activity can (and does)

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > Seems like that would be a different department... Like a group who looks > into sun activity and how it interacts with the solar system. Solar activity can (and does) effect our climate. But that doesn't mean we should toss out all other

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > It isn't a matter of consensus, it is a matter of record. There is a solar > minimum right now and that has led to significantly lower temperatures than > predicted by global warming advocates, which again demonstrates the > limitations of cur

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Cameron C wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Robert M wrote: > > > The climate is NOT rapidly warming now. We are in the midst of a > cooling > > > trend at the moment, not a warming trend.

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Cameron C wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Robert M wrote: > > The climate is NOT rapidly warming now. We are in the midst of a cooling > > trend at the moment, not a warming trend. > > Although there are some scientists who disagree, that is not the >

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > I don't see anything in that artical suggesting Planet X came into orbit > that year either ;-) Yes, well that could be a cause for it too I guess. ~| Want to reach the Col

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > > I didn't see anything in the article suggesting the known (CO2) and > unknown causes for warming 55 million years ago are mutually > exclusive. > > -Cameron > I don't see anything in that artical suggesting Planet X came into orbit

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > The climate is NOT rapidly warming now. We are in the midst of a cooling > trend at the moment, not a warming trend. Although there are some scientists who disagree, that is not the current consensus of the majority of scientists. -Cameron ~

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Cameron C wrote: It suggests that answer may lead to helping us > determine why things are rapidly warming now as well. An event that > only happened once every 55 million years is definitely worth looking > into. > The climate is NOT rapidly warming now. We a

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > Irrelevant. The stated goal of climate change alarmists is to maintain the > planetary environment at its current state. I'm not sure this is true. I understand it to currently be reducing man's impact on global climate. Even the article you

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Cameron wrote: > > That article does say CO2 was a known factor. So according to this > article we should be concerned about CO2 increases, man-made or > otherwise. It also states that there were other factors beyond CO2, > which we should also be concerned abou

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > how does the helium in your head feel? It makes my voice all squeeky. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusio

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Ian S wrote: > > How does the sand between your feet feel around your ears? > how does the helium in your head feel? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let th

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > So the big question is not what to do about > man-made emissions, but what to do about natural emissions that we can't > even explain in the historical record. That article does say CO2 was a known factor. So according to this article we shou

Re: climate change - we still don't know squat about the planet

How does the sand between your feet feel around your ears? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-

Re: climate change debunking article of the week

> Sam wrote: > Isn't there a rule that if you kill file someone you can't talk > about or insult them? But following that rule would be honorable. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to

Re: climate change debunking article of the week

I guess since you kill filed me you missed my debunking of your debunking. Those were legitimate peer-reviewed articles. I see your using the kill file to pretend to not have read my post, odd how you've responded directly to my other posts and always call my name. Isn't there a rule that if you k

Re: climate change debunking article of the week

C. 27616 > (919) 874-6229 (home) > (703) 220-2835 (cell) > -Original Message- > From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:33 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: climate change debunking article of the week > > On 1/3/08, Rob

Re: climate change debunking article of the week

> RoMunn wrote: > As long as I am on the list for a $100 million research grant- I have some > search I want to do! > My bi-partisan leaders will have their teams review your application. Given your work helps us get closer to understanding the risk and is prioritized in value above other applicat

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