you really can't beat that. To be fair, I should add that my own
experience -- I think a four-month wait for a routine gyn appointment
in London, after being told that I "shouldn't" need one, "a young girl
like you"... are not at all recent.
I should also note that my father, once he had had a hea
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Subject: Re: feeling kinda foolish
Duane wrote:
> Near Antigonish - the gateway to Cape Breton ;)
>
Very glad to hear all is well. My cousin had Hodgkin's when he was 16
and is 32 now with no problems s
na tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 December 2004 19:24
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: feeling kinda foolish
the question in my mind is, do you prefer cheap or do you prefer
available? In the US access to care is rationed through insurance
coverage and costs. In Canada and in Great Brit
> Kevin wrote:
> Heck, self treatment of ice and ibuprofen cleared up
> that nasty burning when peeing problem in no time after that pleasure
> trip to Bangkok!
Really?? Where the HELL did I put that ice and ibuprofen?
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Specia
Yeah, that was a bit ridiculous. The way it is working out though,
it's getting charged off to a different hospital account so I really
don't care how much the hospital charges itself. I'd have something to
say though if I were expected to pay it. Seems a bit silly since the
amounts are very simil
Concussion? Ice and ibuprofen. Oh, and we'll give you something
stronger if it would get you out of our office.
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:43:54 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heh. Every fricking time I visit the doc all I get told is to put ice
> on it and take ibuprofen. Carpal tun
You would think so, but it's been from various doctors for the last
decade. I suppose my alternative is to get charged $500 to eat a
cookie. :-)
Actually, I can push past the ice and ibuprofen rub off and get really
good treatement if I need it. My allergist has been great for
instance. But I almo
Or if you are allergic to ibuprofen.
Jerry
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/04 03:29PM >>>
he has a point, Kevin. Sounds like your doctor is doing a fine job at
the "first do no harm" part, but this strategy could be a problem if
you ever develop anythi
he has a point, Kevin. Sounds like your doctor is doing a fine job at
the "first do no harm" part, but this strategy could be a problem if
you ever develop anything that really needs treatment.
Dana
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:15:49 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you might want to
you might want to look at going to another doctor.
larry
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:43:54 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heh. Every fricking time I visit the doc all I get told is to put ice
> on it and take ibuprofen. Carpal tunnel? Ice and ibuprofen. Coughing
> up blood? Ice and i
Not really, filter through this set of records from Scholar.Google.com
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=%22health+care+costs%22+%22United+States%22+Canada&btnG=Search
and for the wrap impaired:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/90
In almost every single study that directly compa
> Brian wrote:
> Yet another reason why I usually don't even bother seeing a doc.
You sound depressed. Have you tried ice and ibuprofen?
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That's funny. The last two times I've been to the doctor, I expected "ice and
aspirin", but was surprised by broken bones both times. I thought they were
just jammed. (toe in 3 places and finger-hand in two.)
Jerry
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/04
Yet another reason why I usually don't even bother seeing a doc.
> Heh. Every fricking time I visit the doc all I get told is to put ice
> on it and take ibuprofen. Carpal tunnel? Ice and ibuprofen. Coughing
> up blood? Ice and ibuprofen. Vampire bites? Ice and ibuprofen. Missing
> kidneys...
you mentioned that before. At times minimalism is the better
route. But only at times.
Dana
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:43:54 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heh. Every fricking time I visit the doc all I get told is to put ice
> on it and take ibuprofen. Carpal tunnel? Ice and ibupr
Heh. Every fricking time I visit the doc all I get told is to put ice
on it and take ibuprofen. Carpal tunnel? Ice and ibuprofen. Coughing
up blood? Ice and ibuprofen. Vampire bites? Ice and ibuprofen. Missing
kidneys...
-Kevin
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:24:20 -0700, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
the question in my mind is, do you prefer cheap or do you prefer
available? In the US access to care is rationed through insurance
coverage and costs. In Canada and in Great Britain the rationing is
more explicit and probably more effective. When it works. Personally,
though... I prefer to have the
the anecdotal evidence says otherwise, but... we have been through
this before. Maybe Manitoba does a better job than Ontario.
Dana
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:22:59 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Everyone.
>
> For instance in Canada, depending on the province, the money for
> Med
Duane wrote:
> Near Antigonish - the gateway to Cape Breton ;)
>
Very glad to hear all is well. My cousin had Hodgkin's when he was 16
and is 32 now with no problems since. Life is a gift we can take for
granted and it's good to be reminded of what's important; thanks for
sharing that.
BTW - i
why. I think that its been well proven that the market has been a
failure at providing for affordable health care for everyone.
by your logic perhaps we should privatize the military.
larry
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:30:03 -0600, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's gotta be cheaper than the US syste
It's gotta be cheaper than the US system. Health insurance in this country
is such an incredible scam. Here's the problem: it's making an awful lot of
powerful people/entities awfully rich. Namely, doctors and insurance
companies.
Problem is, few would trust our government to be in charge of di
Everyone.
For instance in Canada, depending on the province, the money for
Medicare (which is the single payer health insurance) comes out of
general tax revenue, as in Manitoba, or as part of an annual premium,
as in Alberta. In either case on a per person basis its substantially
cheaper than the
As I said, it's paid through tax.
-Original Message-
From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 December 2004 16:11
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: feeling kinda foolish
Somebody is paying for it..who?
Nothing is free.
>?
>
> It didn't cost us anything directly,
Somebody is paying for it..who?
Nothing is free.
>?
>
> It didn't cost us anything directly, sure we pay a small amount through
> tax
> but it's a bargain. All medical services are free when you need them, and
> the amount paid per month is a LOT lower than 300 a month. The best thing
> is
there is a problem
you go to the Dr or the Hospital and get it sorted without worrying about
bills, that simple.
-Original Message-
From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 December 2004 13:44
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: feeling kinda foolish
Why? It's just another way of paying r
, December 02, 2004 9:39 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: feeling kinda foolish
>
> hey Duane,
>
> Where in Nova Scotia. I have family throught the region.
>
> larry
>
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 22:27:37 -0500, Duane Boudreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
&g
Time to chop your head off just so you can have it paid for when they
sew it back on!
-Kevin
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:09:54 -0400, Jason Lemahieu
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My health insurance started yesterday... woo hoo!
>
> :)
That's supposed to be a lovely area...!
-Patrick
>-Original Message-
>From: Duane Boudreau
>
>Near Antigonish - the gateway to Cape Breton ;)
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My health insurance started yesterday... woo hoo!
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, 2004 9:39 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: feeling kinda foolish
>
>hey Duane,
>
>Where in Nova Scotia. I have family throught the region.
>
>larry
>
>
>On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 22:27:37 -0500, Duane Boudreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> Luckily I didn
Near Antigonish - the gateway to Cape Breton ;)
-Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:39 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: feeling kinda foolish
hey Duane,
Where in Nova Scotia. I have family throught the region.
larry
was one of the most treatable. Almost five months of chemo wiped
> > it out. My last PET came back clean but until I'm clean for 5 years
> nothing
> > is guaranteed. I'll have my fingers crossed until then for sure.
> >
> >
> >
> > Duane
> >
&
Why? It's just another way of paying ridiculous costs for services rendered.
Same with our insurance. They take 300 bucks out of my pay check every month
for 10 years, then I'm supposed to feel blessed when I only have to pay 100
bucks on a $5,000 claim? Unless my math is off, i'm getting screwe
My wife has had two cat scans in the last few months with another due in two
weeks, I am so glad we have the national health service after reading those
costs!
-Original Message-
From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 December 2004 22:27
To: CF-Community
Subject: feeling ki
Good luck Duane and best wishes!
> The US has been kind to us for the past 9 years, but now its time to go
> home.
--
will
"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher
Thanks Erika.
-Original Message-
From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:14 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: feeling kinda foolish
Wow Duane!
We're sure glad everything is OK s
a tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:02 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: feeling kinda foolish
I am glad to hear that. I know someone else who has that and he is
having to have some sort of transplant. (bone marrow?)
Look at it this way though, even if it comes ba
Wow Duane!
We're sure glad everything is OK so far!!!
--
>>| -Original Message-
>>| From: Duane Boudreau
>>|
>>| I am now, but it will be 5 years before I know for sure.
~~
sure.
>
>
>
> Duane
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:33 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: feeling kinda foolish
>
> No kidding :) You OK now?
>
> Dana
>
> On Wed, 1 De
r 5 years nothing
is guaranteed. I'll have my fingers crossed until then for sure.
Duane
-Original Message-
From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:33 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: feeling kinda foolish
No kidding :) You OK now?
Dana
On Wed,
No kidding :) You OK now?
Dana
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 21:21:41 -0500, Duane Boudreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I got a look first hand at how expensive medical treatment can cost!
>
> My bills, at least the ones I saw added up to over 45k over the last 5
> months. On top of that there were 2 CT
I got a look first hand at how expensive medical treatment can cost!
My bills, at least the ones I saw added up to over 45k over the last 5
months. On top of that there were 2 CT Scans and 2 PET Scans that weren't on
any of the bills I saw. All told my co-pay added up to about 70 bucks! Quite
a ba
what kind off cookie?
i am good in the kitchen...
hell i am good just about every where
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I still have the plan, if that's the question. Past tense as the
hospital stay was a while ago now, couple of months I guess.
Dana
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:18:24 -0400, Angel Stewart
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why do you say had?
>
> The cookie thing was hilarious ^_^
>
> -Gel
>
>
>
> -O
Why do you say had?
The cookie thing was hilarious ^_^
-Gel
-Original Message-
From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Since a CAT scan runs about $5000 a pop the whole thing would have been about
$40k I guess not 15 as I previously guessed. Good
thing I
*had* a medical plan, hu
:) I actually don't mind paying my share of this one. Just never
noticed that copay, but then it's never come up before. But I was *so*
indignant, lol :) And hey, five hundred twenty five is a bargain under
the circumstances. Being alive is well worth it.
The speech therapist thing, well... I gues
> I got a bill from the hospital for $11k and change, just the stay and
> a visit from a speech pathologist. The speech pathologist was three
> hundred and some plus another two hundred and change for a "swallow
> evaluation."
Dana,
first off, DO NOT feel foolish about this. The fact is you were
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