Quick as a whip aren't you.
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On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> Actually its in most US high school social studies programs. Assuming
> of course you're familiar with high school. After all most managed to
> graduate from it.
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Sam w
Hmmm, sorry you feel your being attacked. I thought you would have
thicker skin about being labeled since you again claimed I'm posting
spin machine nonsense. You're labeling me brainwashed or unable to
think for myself doesn't bother me. I can easily brush it off as a way
to escape a discussion y
Actually its in most US high school social studies programs. Assuming
of course you're familiar with high school. After all most managed to
graduate from it.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Sam wrote:
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> My bad, I was going by the American use of the word since I didn't go
> to a Canadian High
makes sense to me. Its more rational than cut everything go for big
tax cuts and hope.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> The question on eliminating deductions versus changing the rate is a
> really interesting one. In the short term, you could achieve a goal of
> $X in t
Pretty much. The economy will continue to slowly grow...its the social
issues that really matter. Republicans will rape the protections that the
middle class and the poor while protecting their rich masters
On Oct 12, 2012 9:37 PM, "Maureen" wrote:
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> I think most people do realize that, but
I think most people do realize that, but under the current political
structure, one of them is going to win. Economically, it's not going to
matter which one wins, so voting on social issues is going to be the
determining factor. Read their policy statements and see which one you can
stand. Tha
"Kind of like the hope and change rhetoric that the sheeple blindly bought
into a few years ago. So I guess vagueness and ambiguity work for the left
but not the right? "
Things would change for the better if people would realize the both major
parties are full of shit. Both sides want to make t
Has it even occurred to you that Obama wasn't elected because of his
rhetoric but because his predecessor did such a poor job, and his opponent
picked a wing-nut for a running mate?
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
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> Kind of like the hope and change rhetoric that the sheepl
Taxes= Income - Deductions * Rate.
Given an income of 100,000 and the standard deduction of *5,800*
100,000 * 20% 20,000 tax paid
10 - 5800 * 34% 32,028 tax paid
or a roughly 12K tax cut
Given an income of 1,000,000 and the standard deduction of *5,800*
1,000,000 * 20% 2
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> They mentioned caps on deduction, mortgage deductions, capital gains etc.
> The details are just not locked in ye
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They mentioned caps on deduction, mortgage deductions, capital gains etc.
The details are just not locked in yet.
If a deduction is capped at $17K then the wealthy would be defined as anyone
that would b
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Wait...you mean Vice Pres. Biden did NOT strip naked and paint Hello Kitty
on his ass? Now I have no idea what I was watching
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
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> I think Biden knocked it out of the park. He provided facts against
> some of the very vague answers Ryan gaveespecially in the "I
I don't like using filters. It sorta smacks of censorship a bit, and that
has always been one of my hot button issues.
I've actually only ever filtered two people - you, because you kept
attacking me, and one guy on another mailing list who was outed for beating
his wife and bragged about it con
I never understand why you keep taking me out.
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> Guess I should be wise then, and put you back on my bit bucket filter.
>
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Guess I should be wise then, and put you back on my bit bucket filter.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Sam wrote:
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> "If a wise man contends with a foolish man,
> Whether the fool rages or laughs, there is no peace." Proverbs 29:9
>
> This has been hitting my facebook all day yet I never hear
"If a wise man contends with a foolish man,
Whether the fool rages or laughs, there is no peace." Proverbs 29:9
This has been hitting my facebook all day yet I never heard anyone
call Gilligan a wise man.
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> Except the guy making the compariso
Yeah I'm sure.
Seriously, you have to have a bias to think Ryan was dopey.
As for Biden being the Skipper, I think most agree that would be a
step up for him.
Why do you think they rarely let him talk in public?
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> Except the guy making the c
Except the guy making the comparison is huge fan of Romney's, actually had
a dinner with Mitt recently, and his comparison of Biden as the Skipper
was equally insulting. So again, you are wrong.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Someone that can compare Ryan to Gilligan.
> I'm p
And that's the problem they're trying to solve. The companies that
spend the most on lobbyists get the biggest deductions.
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> The question on eliminating deductions versus changing the rate is a
> really interesting one. In the short term
My bad, I was going by the American use of the word since I didn't go
to a Canadian High School.
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> Its Friday. Mo, I wouldn't bother trying to teach something as basic
> as that I mean its a concept taught in high school social scienc
The question on eliminating deductions versus changing the rate is a
really interesting one. In the short term, you could achieve a goal of
$X in tax revenue by doing either. The major differences come later,
however.
Let's say you eliminate the major deductions like mortgage interest
and whatnot
Its Friday. Mo, I wouldn't bother trying to teach something as basic
as that I mean its a concept taught in high school social sciences.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> Which shows pretty readily that you have no idea what confirmation bias
> means.
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012
Someone that can compare Ryan to Gilligan.
I'm pretty sure nobody could make that comparison without an extreme bias.
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> Which shows pretty readily that you have no idea what confirmation bias
> means.
>
~~~
Which shows pretty readily that you have no idea what confirmation bias
means.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Sam wrote:
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> To steal from Larry's phrase of the week calendar, you seem to be
> suffering from confirmation bias.
>
> .
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Maureen wrote:
> >
>
To steal from Larry's phrase of the week calendar, you seem to be
suffering from confirmation bias.
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> My brother came up with a better description. He called The Skipper and
> Gilligan.
>
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Because it's complicated.
Here's a discussion showing the many ways to achieve the tax
deductions without adding to the debt. It's a matter of choosing which
cuts most will agree to.
Ass for why, he wants to simplify the tax code and make it fairer by
stunting the lobbyists.
http://www.mittrom
My brother came up with a better description. He called The Skipper and
Gilligan.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> I was referring specifically to the little point of hair in the middle
> of his forehead.
>
> As for Tex Baxteryea...that's it.
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012
I disagree their tax plan is a 'minor portion' of their economic plan.
I think it is kind of sketchy that they are not releasing any details.
It makes me feel like a) they don't have any details or 2) the details
would prohibit them from actually winning the election.
I have seen reports that sai
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website
Solutions wrote:
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> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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>> So, on a whim, after I sent the email containing the above, I googled "What
>> kind of car does Joe Biden drive?"
>>
>
> Technically, he doesn't drive...
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
> So, on a whim, after I sent the email containing the above, I googled "What
> kind of car does Joe Biden drive?"
>
Technically, he doesn't drive...
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Not a Chevy Volt?
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
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> Corvette, duh. LOL
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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>>
>> "He reminded me of these men you see at bars. They are on the north end of
>> their fifties, leave their keychain on the bar so the
Corvette, duh. LOL
On Oct 12, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "He reminded me of these men you see at bars. They are on the north end of
> their fifties, leave their keychain on the bar so the corvette icon can be
> seen, wear pastel, highly starched button downs and pinky rings,
I'm not sure why they're even pushing a 20% tax cut. They should just
leave existing cuts in place. maybe they think the savings will spur
spending, leaving it to the people rather than the government to grow
the economy. That alone never works, if people are worried about
future employment they w
"He reminded me of these men you see at bars. They are on the north end of
their fifties, leave their keychain on the bar so the corvette icon can be
seen, wear pastel, highly starched button downs and pinky rings, seem to
have a few divorces under their belts, as of the last few years they have
On Oct 12, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> There aren't any
> connections between the campaign and the moderator, are there?
>
Other than the fact that Hussein attended her wedding, no, none at all.
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"2. Vice Pres. Biden reminded me of the weird uncle at Thanksgiving."
He reminded me of these men you see at bars. They are on the north end of
their fifties, leave their keychain on the bar so the corvette icon can be
seen, wear pastel, highly starched button downs and pinky rings, seem to
have
I do not recall hearing anything about mortgage deductions, etc. other
than last night Rep. Ryan did say something about mortgage deduction
(and I think healthcare) not be affected for 'the middle class'.
If they are using this in their campaign, they really ought to have
_some_ idea of what can
Now I'm thinking you're certifiable.
You're scaring me Larry.
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> Found this on the web about the defining characteristics of fascism.
> My comments note the current republican party positions, and the
> positions of the Romney Ryan camp
And the right wing think tank refutes your left-wing think tank.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/09/25/heritage-defends-romney-tax-plan/
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> I like what the Brookings Institution says about the Romney Ryan tax plan:
>
> Our major con
They mentioned caps on deduction, mortgage deductions, capital gains etc.
The details are just not locked in yet.
If a deduction is capped at $17K then the wealthy would be defined as
anyone that would be restricted by that is my guess
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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>
Found this on the web about the defining characteristics of fascism.
My comments note the current republican party positions, and the
positions of the Romney Ryan campaign:
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler
(Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indones
He wasn't presenting his views...he was presenting the facts...
On Oct 12, 2012 11:00 AM, "Sam" wrote:
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> If Biden didn't act like a jerk he could have won. Not on facts,
> because they are wrong, but in presenting his views.
>
> .
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> >
>
If Biden didn't act like a jerk he could have won. Not on facts,
because they are wrong, but in presenting his views.
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> To be fair, Sam did not say he thought Ryan won, but that Biden lost.
> Splitting hairs? Maybe. But I think I can unde
I like what the Brookings Institution says about the Romney Ryan tax plan:
Our major conclusion is that a revenue-neutral individual income tax
change that incorporates the features Governor Romney has proposed
including reducing marginal tax rates substantially, eliminating the
individual alte
I thought the whole spectacle was awful. I'm politically engaged, for the
most part, but I HATE debates. Hate them. I tried to watch Obama/Romney,
but couldn't. I tried to watch Ryan/Biden, and made it about 3 minutes.
Just awful.
On the flip side, another awesome, AWESOME night of post season ba
To be fair, Sam did not say he thought Ryan won, but that Biden lost.
Splitting hairs? Maybe. But I think I can understand what he means
(even though I am not sure I could say either won or lost)
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:43 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> Was his comment more or less valuable than a con
Was his comment more or less valuable than a conservative commenting that
he thought the conservative candidate won the debate?
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Sam wrote:
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> Thanks for your valued input.
>
> .
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> >
> > Wow...imagine th
Right back at you
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Sam wrote:
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> Thanks for your valued input.
>
> .
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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>> Wow...imagine that. Sam thinks Biden lost the debate. Who would have guessed?
>>
>
>
~~
One thing I find bothersome is that in the 2 debates so far, both Gov.
Romney and Rep. Ryan have not mentioned any 'loopholes' or
'deductions' they think can make up difference in the 20%
across-the-board tax cuts. Even when asked for items they feel
could/should be 'on the table' they fall back t
Thanks for your valued input.
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> Wow...imagine that. Sam thinks Biden lost the debate. Who would have guessed?
>
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Wow...imagine that. Sam thinks Biden lost the debate. Who would have guessed?
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Sam wrote:
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> Hate is such a strong word.
>
> I think Biden showed he's an ass and Ryan was too polite. I want a VP
> that'll speak up when being attacked by two people at once. Basic
love the confirmation bias shown here today.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> 1. I had a hard time focusing on the debate itself. I kept getting
> hypnotized by Vice Pres. Biden's teeth and the Eddie Munster 'peak' on
> Rep. Ryan's hair.
>
> 2. Vice Pres. Biden reminded m
I'm shocked that anyone could say that.
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Maureen wrote:
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> both did a pretty good job of presenting their positions.
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Hate is such a strong word.
I think Biden showed he's an ass and Ryan was too polite. I want a VP
that'll speak up when being attacked by two people at once. Basically
Ryan didn't win it, Biden definitely lost it.
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:14 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> Uh, Larry.this is me,
In other news:
"Biden could have stripped naked and painted Hello Kitty on his ass
cheeks while Ryan balanced the budget and brought peace to the middle
east, and you'd still declare Biden the winner."
That is a truly hideous visual and I now need a new keyboard
because mine is flooded af
Wait...you mean Vice Pres. Biden did NOT strip naked and paint Hello
Kitty on his ass? Now I have no idea what I was watching
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:45 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Eric Roberts <
> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I think Biden kn
Uh, Larry.this is me, not Sam. I'm not a republican. I hate
republicans. So.try again.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> I suspect that Ryan could murder someone's grandmother in front of the
> camera, while Biden is revealed as the second coming of Christ, and
>
I suspect that Ryan could murder someone's grandmother in front of the
camera, while Biden is revealed as the second coming of Christ, and
you'd think Ryan won the debate.
the amount of confirmation bias just reeks.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:45 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:0
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> I think Biden knocked it out of the park. He provided facts against some
> of
> the very vague answers Ryan gaveespecially in the "I was there in the
> room..." comments. I think he had WAY more cr
I was referring specifically to the little point of hair in the middle
of his forehead.
As for Tex Baxteryea...that's it.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Maureen wrote:
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> When they weren't smirking and showing off, both did a pretty good job of
> presenting their positions. Ryan reminds
When they weren't smirking and showing off, both did a pretty good job of
presenting their positions. Ryan reminds me more of Alfred E. Neumam than
Eddie Munster, but Biden kinda reminds me of Ted Baxter from the Mary Tyler
Moore show.
I haven't really like any VP since Truman.
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Subject: VP Debate Notes
1. I had a hard time focusing on the debate itself. I kept getting
hypnotized by Vice Pres. Biden's teeth and the Eddie Munster 'peak' on Rep.
Ryan's hair.
2. Vice Pres. Biden reminded me of the weird uncle at Thanksgiving.
3. Rep. Ryan reminded
1. I had a hard time focusing on the debate itself. I kept getting
hypnotized by Vice Pres. Biden's teeth and the Eddie Munster 'peak' on
Rep. Ryan's hair.
2. Vice Pres. Biden reminded me of the weird uncle at Thanksgiving.
3. Rep. Ryan reminded me of a 2nd year, know-it-all political science ma
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