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2005-08-12 Thread Sam
I don't remember anyone ever accusing Bush of being a fiscal conservative. I do remember you saying he did every thing wrong about the economy. Still own Euro's? On 8/11/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > Anyone out there still arguing Mr. Bush is a fiscal conservative? > Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Damn.

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2005-08-11 Thread Robert Munn
CA 702 is mine baby! That's the construction of the I-5 to I-56 connector right in front of my office. $6.4 mil. And belive me when I say that project is not pork, not even close. Half of LA comes through that intersection every weekend on the way to Mexico and back. CA 2735, improvements to 5

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2005-08-11 Thread Dana
oil companies need the roads so they can drill. Shit. Forget the road bill,at least *some* of it benefits *some people, the outrageous one is the billion dollar giveaway in the energy bill. And nobody is even surprised or shocked anymore. We *like* diesel in our water around here. Hey, we shouldn't

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2005-08-11 Thread Gruss Gott
> Jacob wrote: > The $223 million bridge to an island of 50 people... > Yes, but Don Young is Chairman of the House Transportation Committee and so ... BTW, Pres Reagan vetoed a transportation bill with ~120 pork earmarks. Mr Bush has just signed one with over 6,000. Anyone out there still ar

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2005-08-11 Thread Jacob
The $223 million bridge to an island of 50 people... -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:57 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What has more pork... Forget CA, the biggest pork windfall goes to ... Alaska! Nearly a billion

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2005-08-11 Thread Robert Munn
Forget CA, the biggest pork windfall goes to ... Alaska! Nearly a billion dollars for a state with 650,000 people. >A southern bbq or the new highway bill signed yesterday? > >Reading some of these project, just in CA... landscaping, adding a >raised median, bike trails...LOL ~~~

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2005-08-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
go, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep > carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" > > the Scottish Rogues > > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 04:13 pm > To: CF-Community &g

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
ass... and thus the Pipes were born" the Scottish Rogues -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 04:14 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What has more pork... Importance: Low sepultura... GREAT band. love them. i forgot a

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
sheep carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" the Scottish Rogues -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 04:14 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What has more pork... Importance: Low sepultura... GREAT band. love them.

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
5 04:13 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What has more pork... Importance: Low It gets worse. Davis had a temper tantrum when he found out that metro wanted to sell some of its land near the Vienna metro station for a high density condo project. He's threatening to withhold all funding for

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2005-08-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
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2005-08-11 Thread Tony Weeg
the Pipes were born" > > the Scottish Rogues > > > -Original Message- > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 03:53 pm > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: What has more pork... > Importance: Low > > whats ur fav for that

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2005-08-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It gets worse. Davis had a temper tantrum when he found out that metro wanted to sell some of its land near the Vienna metro station for a high density condo project. He's threatening to withhold all funding for metro over this. BTW his house is about a mile from the project. Do I hear conflict of

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2005-08-11 Thread Loathe
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2005-08-11 Thread Loathe
Many thousands of years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep > carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" > > the Scottish Rogues > > > -Original Message- > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 03:53 p

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2005-08-11 Thread Loathe
of years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep > carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" > > the Scottish Rogues > > > -Original Message- > From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 03:45 pm > To: CF-Communit

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
stepped on a bloated sheep carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" the Scottish Rogues -Original Message- From: SStewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 04:01 pm To: CF-Community Subject: RE: What has more pork... Importance: Low Seputura: Chao

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
ds of years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" the Scottish Rogues -Original Message- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 03:45 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What has more pork...

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
rcass... and thus the Pipes were born" the Scottish Rogues -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 03:53 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What has more pork... Importance: Low whats ur fav for that? mine: pantera: vulgar

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2005-08-11 Thread Tony Weeg
e, Suite 300 > >>Chantilly, VA 20151 > >>Phone: (703) 995-1737 > >>Fax: (703) 834-5527 > >> > >>"Many thousands of years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep > >>carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" > >> > &g

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
;Many thousands of years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" the Scottish Rogues -Original Message- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 03:47 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What has

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" the Scottish Rogues -Original Message- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 03:45 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What has more pork... Importan

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2005-08-11 Thread Loathe
03) 995-1737 >>Fax: (703) 834-5527 >> >>"Many thousands of years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep >>carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" >> >>.... the Scottish Rogues >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Larr

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2005-08-11 Thread Loathe
of years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep > carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" > > the Scottish Rogues > > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 03:32 pm &g

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
the Scottish Rogues -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 03:32 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What has more pork... Importance: Low Of course not, isn't it in a Democrat district? boy am I glad I don't have t

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2005-08-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Of course not, isn't it in a Democrat district? boy am I glad I don't have to suffer that mess. larry On 8/11/05, SStewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It does however look like they're wanting the mixing bowl to fix itself. > > sas > ~~~

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" the Scottish Rogues -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 02:42 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What has more por

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" the Scottish Rogues -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 03:04 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What has more por

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2005-08-11 Thread William Bowen
a wee bit. :-P > If I didn't know better, it almost sounds like you have some sort of > problem with a poorly-paved 2-lane highway with blind curves, steep > hills and a 70 mph speed limit or something? It's actually almost 4 > lanes the whole way now, with a few stretches under construction sti

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2005-08-11 Thread Jim Campbell
Oh yeah - you'll only destroy 2 tires in the potholes instead of all four, and the 435/470 interchange has been changed from "4 Lane" to "Double Black Diamond". - Jim William Bowen wrote: >Speaking of KC area highways, last time I was in KC (in May) I didn't >get a chance to drive all the way

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2005-08-11 Thread William Bowen
> At least its a lovely area. I have family just north of there in BC. Yeah, I wouldn't trade the views and the weather for anything... never thought I'd pine for roads though... of all things... :-\ -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable

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2005-08-11 Thread G
Well, you're getting your sections mixed up a bit. 435 does a big circle, and intersects near Blue Springs up north, and intersects near Lee's Summit in the SOUTH. You are probably talking about the Grandview Triangle, the southern meeting of 435, 470, and 71 highway. They've begun an ambitious

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2005-08-11 Thread William Bowen
Speaking of KC area highways, last time I was in KC (in May) I didn't get a chance to drive all the way around 435... has the south end of that thing been improved on the MO side? Blue Springs Lee's Summit triangle, that stuff? > Amateur! We'd go from Lawrence to KC, then hang a right and go all

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2005-08-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
At least its a lovely area. I have family just north of there in BC. larry On 8/11/05, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can do what I did, found a job where I didn't have to commute. > > unfortunately, the jobs that pay what I make are all in > Bellevue/Redmond and I'm living up

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2005-08-11 Thread Jim Campbell
If I didn't know better, it almost sounds like you have some sort of problem with a poorly-paved 2-lane highway with blind curves, steep hills and a 70 mph speed limit or something? It's actually almost 4 lanes the whole way now, with a few stretches under construction still. But it wasn't ba

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2005-08-11 Thread William Bowen
> You can do what I did, found a job where I didn't have to commute. unfortunately, the jobs that pay what I make are all in Bellevue/Redmond and I'm living up in Everett... no matter though, I'm now waiting for my laptop to come in from IT...then it's three days in the office/two at home every we

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2005-08-11 Thread William Bowen
> Best we ever did was Overland Park to Fort > Scott in an hour... in a Renault. Holy crap! that's a horrible stretch of highway... even in a tank! -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~

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2005-08-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
IL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 02:42 pm > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: What has more pork... > Importance: Low > > But the ones that we do get, are needed at least. Notice how many are > going to Richmond and the Tidewater areas. I won't argue abou

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2005-08-11 Thread Nick McClure
02 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: What has more pork... > > I don't think anything, including pork chops, has a higher percentage > of pork than that bill. > > It just shows that these clowns in Congress no longer fear any > criticism of their work. > >

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
go, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" the Scottish Rogues -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 02:42 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What has more pork... Importanc

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2005-08-11 Thread Tony Weeg
fuckin a which is why ive never smoked anything > Shush Weegsdon't you know this list is archived :) ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banne

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2005-08-11 Thread Jim Campbell
Amateur! We'd go from Lawrence to KC, then hang a right and go all the way down 69 to Pittsburg. Best we ever did was Overland Park to Fort Scott in an hour... in a Renault. - Jim G wrote: >Drunken cruises from Lawrence (KU) back to KC, doin' 90mph at 3 in the >morning, are some of my fonde

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2005-08-11 Thread G
Shush Weegsdon't you know this list is archived :) > suurre > > On 8/11/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Drunken cruises from Lawrence (KU) back to KC, doin' 90mph at 3 in the >> morning, are some of my fondest memories of college >> >> NOTE: I was a drunken passenger

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2005-08-11 Thread Tony Weeg
suurre On 8/11/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Drunken cruises from Lawrence (KU) back to KC, doin' 90mph at 3 in the > morning, are some of my fondest memories of college > > NOTE: I was a drunken passengernot driver :) > > > > > Y'know, K-10 is probably my favorite highw

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2005-08-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You can do what I did, found a job where I didn't have to commute. Not that I'm rubbing it in... larry On 8/11/05, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Out of all of the Va projects Northern VA. gets a handfull... we have all > > the damn traffic in the state!! geez > > w00t! WA #14 i

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2005-08-11 Thread Jim Campbell
Well, Lawrence (and Eudora, etc.) are becoming more suburbs of KC every day - especially in the "clutter" category. I've taken a few trips out to KU in the last couple of months, and K-10 during rush hour is almost as bad as the outbound Ike in Chicago. For what it's worth, I-35 is still pret

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2005-08-11 Thread G
Drunken cruises from Lawrence (KU) back to KC, doin' 90mph at 3 in the morning, are some of my fondest memories of college NOTE: I was a drunken passengernot driver :) > > Y'know, K-10 is probably my favorite highway. > > Which is weird I know, but I used to drive it every day when I liv

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2005-08-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
CTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 02:04 pm > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: What has more pork... > Importance: Low > > http://www.taxpayer.net/Transportation/safetealu/states.htm > > The closest one to me.. CA #1915. > > Great! More construction. There

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2005-08-11 Thread William Bowen
> The bike and pedestrian path alongside K-10 between Douglas and Johnson > counties though... That's probably from Lawrence to Lenexa or Shawnee... > that'll be a fun ride. Y'know, K-10 is probably my favorite highway. Which is weird I know, but I used to drive it every day when I lived in Lawre

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2005-08-11 Thread Jim Campbell
Looking at the Kansas designations - some of these (at least in my neck of the woods) look to be necessary, in that nothing really jumps out as egregious. Where I live, there's lots of problems with east-west traffic during rush-hour, and the projects to regrade tracks and build overpasses wil

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2005-08-11 Thread Jacob Kisner
I am looking for the one for DC... Removal of White House and Capitol Hill to widen Constitution Ave... On 8/11/05, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A southern bbq or the new highway bill signed yesterday? > > mmm pork... > > I think the best part about the highway bill is t

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2005-08-11 Thread William Bowen
> Out of all of the Va projects Northern VA. gets a handfull... we have all the > damn traffic in the state!! geez w00t! WA #14 is right down the street from me! 3mil in spending on local highway access! Yay! Traffic is gonna take it right in the butt! And just when I thought the commute couldn

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2005-08-11 Thread Jerry Johnson
Looking at CT, there is actually one project on there that is important. (Meaning it will affect my life) The bridge between Westerly, RI and N Stonington, CT. Assuming it is the White Rock bridge that has been out since 1988 or so. Both states have been squabbling since then over who should pay

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2005-08-11 Thread Jacob Kisner
CA #76... Construct a vehicle and bicycle parking lot and a pedestrian rest area at transit center... On 8/11/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think anything, including pork chops, has a higher percentage > of pork than that bill. > > It just shows that these clowns in Co

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2005-08-11 Thread William Bowen
> A southern bbq or the new highway bill signed yesterday? mmm pork... I think the best part about the highway bill is the spin flying out of the White House. Bush promised that he'd veto over a certain dollar figure. Congress delivered that dollar figure +2 Billion. So our pres, who app

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2005-08-11 Thread Jerry Johnson
It looks at a quick glance like only Texas and Indiana had their pork go down from March through the final bill. And the size in dollars doubled since March. On 8/11/05, Jacob Kisner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.taxpayer.net/Transportation/safetealu/states.htm > > The closest one to

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2005-08-11 Thread SStewart
: Re: What has more pork... Importance: Low http://www.taxpayer.net/Transportation/safetealu/states.htm The closest one to me.. CA #1915. Great! More construction. There is not a drainage problem along Imperial. I drive down it everyday, even drove it during this past monsoon season we had.

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2005-08-11 Thread Jacob Kisner
http://www.taxpayer.net/Transportation/safetealu/states.htm The closest one to me.. CA #1915. Great! More construction. There is not a drainage problem along Imperial. I drive down it everyday, even drove it during this past monsoon season we had. There is a drainage problem on another str

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2005-08-11 Thread Jerry Johnson
I don't think anything, including pork chops, has a higher percentage of pork than that bill. It just shows that these clowns in Congress no longer fear any criticism of their work. It's bread and circus time, boys. On 8/11/05, Jacob Kisner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A southern bbq or the new

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2005-08-11 Thread Jacob Kisner
A southern bbq or the new highway bill signed yesterday? Reading some of these project, just in CA... landscaping, adding a raised median, bike trails...LOL ~| Purchase RoboHelp from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affil