Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> Kevin wrote: > Don't worry, you still are. > Yea! Guess what? Bush sucks! Bwahahahahaha! ~| Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=17 Message: http://www.houseof

Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
Don't worry, you still are. On 8/30/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > He ... I thought I was the official Bush ranter. > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficienc

Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> Kevin wrote: > Ha! Replace "Chavez" with "Bush" and "Venezuelan" with "US" and you'll have > just as accurate a sentence. > He ... I thought I was the official Bush ranter. In Mr. Bush's defense, he hasn't done anything that's not been his right to do, however the fact that he *wants*

Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
On 8/30/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > He is a communist thug in the mold of Castro, who is the worst sort of > > communist thug- a dictator posing as a populist. > > > > By dictator you mean a democratically elected leader. > > Castro is apparently very popular in Cuba. Mao was

Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-29 Thread Robert Munn
> > Robert wrote: > > To understand what ghettoizing the country means, just look at this > number five years from now. > > ^ What he said ^^^ > > They are poor because they are so rich. I know, that's the best line :-). The argument goes something like this. You are so poor be

Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-29 Thread Robert Munn
> He is a communist thug in the mold of Castro, who is the worst sort of > communist thug- a dictator posing as a populist. > > By dictator you mean a democratically elected leader. Castro is apparently very popular in Cuba. Mao was very popular in China. Some people in Russia actually yearn fo

Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-29 Thread Michael Bramwell
From: "Robert Munn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:38 AM Subject: Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez? > He is a communist thug in the mold of Castro, who is the worst sort of > communist thug- a dictator posing as a po

Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Robert wrote: > To understand what ghettoizing the country means, just look at this number > five years from now. ^ What he said ^^^ They are poor because they are so rich. ~| Protect your mail server with bui

Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-29 Thread Robert Munn
He is a communist thug in the mold of Castro, who is the worst sort of communist thug- a dictator posing as a populist. It is no accident that Castro is his hero and role model. Chavez constantly sings the praises of the Cuban revolution and Castro's genius. What has Chvez done? He has pushed

Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Vivec wrote: > Could you explain what he's done that is 'Outward Communism' and 'fascism' ? > If that's a serious question ... 1.) Hangin' with Iran's mullahs 2.) blasting capitalism as the "road to hell" 3.) Hangin' with Castro 4.) Lavishly spending Petroleos de Venezuela SA's windfall on

Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-29 Thread Vivec
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/12505036.htm CARACAS - The Rev. Jesse Jackson offered support for Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez on Sunday, saying a recent call for his assassination was a criminal act and the United States and Venezuela should work out their differences through diplomacy.

Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-29 Thread Vivec
Could you explain what he's done that is 'Outward Communism' and 'fascism' ? I've spoken to a few venezuelans, and the polarity is astounding. Well off and the 'elite' Venez don't like him at all..while the middle class are all for him. And why do you say Venezuela is Ghettorizing itself? On 8/

Re: Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Vivec wrote: > It's interesting to read the other side of the story. > If you consider outward communism and inward fascism a "side", ok, but interesting it's not. It's sad to watch yet another country ghettoize itself by using America as it's leader's excuse to impose authoritarian rule. Thi

Why the US is upset with Chavez?

2005-08-28 Thread Vivec
A highly Anti American piece, but some points are worth noting. Venezuela developing and cementing its autonomy from the US seems to be perfectly legal, however. The article does not list a single thing that Chavez has done that breaks any International Laws. (And doesn't America's leader say th