Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-10-04 Thread Jerry Barnes
"What do you think modern liberalism is committed to?" Social justice, government intervention in personal decisions, and state control of what we used to call free enterprise. Isn't it obvious? "Abolishing gay marriage? The 'right to choose'? loyalty pledges? Conformity?" I see where you

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-10-03 Thread denstar
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > *"*Exsqueeze me?  Baking powder?" > > From Wikipedia: > * > * > *Classical liberalism* is a political ideology that developed in the > nineteenth century in Western Europe, and the Americas. It was committed to > the ideal of limited governme

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-10-03 Thread Jerry Barnes
*"*Exsqueeze me? Baking powder?" >From Wikipedia: * * *Classical liberalism* is a political ideology that developed in the nineteenth century in Western Europe, and the Americas. It was committed to the ideal of limited government and liberty of individuals including freedom of religion, speech,

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-10-03 Thread denstar
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Yeah, because Progressives are the only ones who ever do that." > > No, but they have made it an art form.  Why are progressives called liberal > when there is nothing liberal about the progressive movement? Exsqueeze me? Baking powder? A

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-10-01 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Yeah, because Progressives are the only ones who ever do that." No, but they have made it an art form. Why are progressives called liberal when there is nothing liberal about the progressive movement? "Definition of a political party: A group of people whose main activities are collecting m

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-30 Thread denstar
Zounds! I'm with Scott. Trust 'em all. Sorta. If we wanted to change things, we could. Maybe things are perfect the way they are. =] :Den -- Genteel women suppose that those things do not really exist about which it is impossible to talk in polite company. Friedrich Nietzsche On Thu, Se

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-30 Thread Maureen
Definition of a political party: A group of people whose main activities are collecting money and spreading lies, disinformation, and spin. Synonym: Hypocrites On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:54 PM, denstar wrote: > > They recently held a rally celebrating hypocrisy and revisionist history, > righ

RE: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-30 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah, this coming from the guy who thinks that the Nazi party was a left wing ideology LOL -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:20 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: and in Bizzaro world... "Oh yeah, totally. W

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-30 Thread denstar
They recently held a rally celebrating hypocrisy and revisionist history, right? :Den -- For art to exist, for any sort of aesthetic activity to exist, a certain physiological precondition is indispensable: intoxication. Friedrich Nietzsche On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Maureen wrote: > >

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-30 Thread Maureen
Yeah, because Progressives are the only ones who ever do that. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > Personally, I think of hypocrisy.  Not the hypocrisy of the original > movement, but the hypocrisy of today's progressives who ignore history when > it is inconvenient to rememb

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-30 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Oh yeah, totally. When I think 'progressive' I think 'eugenic movement'." Personally, I think of hypocrisy. Not the hypocrisy of the original movement, but the hypocrisy of today's progressives who ignore history when it is inconvenient to remember it. But to each his or her own. J - Sin

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-30 Thread denstar
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "nope just a statement of historical fact." > > > True.  Interestingly enough, the eugenic movement was bound at the hip to > the progressive movement.  Go figure. Oh yeah, totally. When I think "progressive" I think "eugenic movement". .

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-30 Thread Jerry Barnes
"In Virginia that was definitely not the case. Try another one." Revise history much? Governor Trinkle of Virginia signed a controversial sterilization law in the 1920. Governor Trinkle was a supporter of the progressive movement. J - No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the le

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In Virginia that was definitely not the case. Try another one. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "nope just a statement of historical fact." > > > True.  Interestingly enough, the eugenic movement was bound at the hip to > the progressive movement.  Go figure. > > > J > >

RE: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Are you saying this isn't a historical fact? -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: and in Bizzaro world... lol, if you say so. thanks! On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:55 PM, La

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"nope just a statement of historical fact." True. Interestingly enough, the eugenic movement was bound at the hip to the progressive movement. Go figure. J - More children from the fit, less from the unfit — that is the chief aim of birth control.- Margaret Sanger A marriage license shall

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
well isn't it September 30th? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > lol, if you say so. > > thanks! > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> >> nope just a statement of historical fact. >> >> btw happy birthday. >> >> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Rob

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Robert Munn
lol, if you say so. thanks! On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > nope just a statement of historical fact. > > btw happy birthday. > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Robert Munn wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Larry C. Lyons >> wrote: >>> >>> I really w

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
nope just a statement of historical fact. btw happy birthday. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> >> I really wonder about some of your quotes Jerry. The one you used with >> your other note sounds very much like th

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I really wonder about some of your quotes Jerry. The one you used with > your other note sounds very much like the eugenics laws that Virginia > and other states had in the 1920 through the 40's. They were the ones > that the German legis

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I am sure if I looked close enough and cherry picked a lot I can find all sorts of ugly examples of your so-called heroes from teh 20's and 30's as well." Well, of course you could. It's been SOP for progressives since the progressive movement started. There are unacceptable moments in history

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I am sure if I looked close enough and cherry picked a lot I can find all sorts of ugly examples of your so-called heroes from teh 20's and 30's as well. Better to look at the person's entire accomplishments than to cherry pick just a few choice examples. Although some seem to think that that is t

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Sterilize the unfit. But how do you decide who is unfit, and when does your persuasion become coercion." I don't believe in sterilization. The quote shows the hypocrisy of certain groups. Margaret Sanger is the founder of Planned Parenthood. J - If once the people become inattentive to the

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I really wonder about some of your quotes Jerry. The one you used with your other note sounds very much like the eugenics laws that Virginia and other states had in the 1920 through the 40's. They were the ones that the German legislature used as a model for their anti-semitic laws. http://en.wiki

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Kinda like 1972 when Jimmy Carter came out for Richard Nixon." Jimmy Carter. That's all you need to say. J - It now remains for the U.S. government to set a sensible example to the world by offering a bonus or yearly pension to all obviously unfit parents who allow themselves to be sterilize

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-28 Thread Maureen
Kinda like 1972 when Jimmy Carter came out for Richard Nixon. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > That is the most bizarre news of the day.  Even stranger than the segway > guy ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-27 Thread Jerry Barnes
That is the most bizarre news of the day. Even stranger than the segway guy. J - Individual rights are not subject to a public vote; a majority has no right to vote away the rights of a minority; the political function of rights is precisely to protect minorities from oppression by majorities

and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Vulnerable Dem Rep. Embraces Bush In Latest Ad http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/09/vulnerable-dem-rep-embraces-obama-in-latest-ad.html We’ve seen plenty of Democrats in tight races trying to distance themselves from President Obama. But one Democrat, North Dakota's Rep. Earl Pomeroy, is taki