bush has cause US, AMERICANS to feel anti-american at times.
i dont have to look elsewhere, ive felt it inside my body.
thanks tho sam, great try.
-- tony
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
-- siddhartha gautama
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:53 PM, sam morris <[EM
That's antidotal.
I believe this notion that Bush caused anti-Americanism is naive.
Read:
Anti-Americanism Is Mostly Hype - David Gothard
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121417762529095457.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Here's a blurb.
You would not know from these surveys, of course, that anti-A
No, I think we buy them from an established trade partner, and sometime
ally.
To be honest considering the amount of money and life we've spent in
Europe, Asia, Africa and South America over the years I feel as though
many of our traditional allies have abandoned us. Germany, France,
Austria,
>Trade partner != ally
>
You think that teh US buys a substantial part of its military supplies and
vehicles from an enemy?
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you're drinking the koolaid. The Bushies think that because of Canada,
recognizing a clusterfuck when it saw one, declined to be involved in Iraq.
It has however significantly helped the us with things like intelligence on
suspected terrorists. To its shame, it has given the US the benefit of the
d
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wrong. look at the economy and then say that. look at who is the top
> foreign supplier to the military. Who builds the LAV-25 and the Strykers
> btw. Or where does a good portion of the munitions come from? What firm is
> s
Trade partner != ally
Larry Lyons wrote:
> Wrong. look at the economy and then say that. look at who is the top foreign
> supplier to the military. Who builds the LAV-25 and the Strykers btw. Or
> where does a good portion of the munitions come from? What firm is servicing
> most of the US flee
Wrong. look at the economy and then say that. look at who is the top foreign
supplier to the military. Who builds the LAV-25 and the Strykers btw. Or where
does a good portion of the munitions come from? What firm is servicing most of
the US fleet of C-130's? I'll give you a hint, its a Canadian
agreed. he wouldnt be as bad as shrub, i dont think.
*BUT*
and thats a j-lo sized butt...
i just wanna see someone/something/anything different when i think
of my president... and mccain isnt that... obama is...
change for the sake of change... as we all said years ago when
thinking about poss
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and im not some hippie tree hugging please everyone love me... but id
> prefer if the new and up and coming super powers had a good feeling for us
> and our leadership... china, russia, india, australia... shrub did
> enough to pis
and im not some hippie tree hugging please everyone love me... but id
prefer if the new and up and coming super powers had a good feeling for us
and our leadership... china, russia, india, australia... shrub did
enough to piss
enough people off and id rather we fix that than perform worsening... an
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been talking with friends and relatives in throughout Canada. Most of
> them have been generally pro American. Not any more. Many of them use the
> same phrasing as was used with the Soviets 25 years ago. Most think tha
Canada probably isn't in our top 5 allies.
We are closer Britain and Australia for sure. We've had diplomatic
differences with Canada going back to the Vietnam war, and it continues
even today with their harboring deserters from the military.
Larry Lyons wrote:
> I've been talking with friends
I've been talking with friends and relatives in throughout Canada. Most of them
have been generally pro American. Not any more. Many of them use the same
phrasing as was used with the Soviets 25 years ago. Most think that the US is
the problem now, and is a major threat to world peace. Several o
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do. Especially these day when there's a lot of people doing a lot
> of business overseas. The US has to become part of the "world
> community" and that's going to mean doing things, and compromising on
> things, that we d
> gMoney wrote:
> But i'm not ringing my hands over the fact that they hate us,
I do. Especially these day when there's a lot of people doing a lot
of business overseas. The US has to become part of the "world
community" and that's going to mean doing things, and compromising on
things, that we
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> isnt it kinda proven that other countries could learn
> a lot by following our lead? why not be the flagship for them?
> rather than the bully? really?
>
> -- tony
>
Definitely, Tone, but people don't always like leaders either.
indeed. nothing good comes from this sort of thing.
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Larry wrote:
> You mean like how the US has interferred with local elections in Canada, and
> in Europe, simply because the left leaning socialist parties were ascendant,
> or were supporting universal health ca
You mean like how the US has interferred with local elections in Canada, and in
Europe, simply because the left leaning socialist parties were ascendant, or
were supporting universal health care. How about the American support of death
squads throughout central and south america. Yes those peopl
to me, its like this...
when i listen to a song, i dont necesarily listen to the lyrics
as i can basically tell whether i like it or not based on the whole experience
as with movies same thing...
i can generally tell that i like barack, its a gut thing... and i think thats
what they are saying to
As G said, the best choice for them may not be the best choice for us.
They are evaluating the choices based on their interests, not ours.
Monetary policy, tax policy, trade policy, energy policy - there are a
whole host of issues where our self-interest is different than that of
citizens of other
we arent letting them decide man... but isnt it cool to see them
happy about our choice? kinda like getting some cheers from the peanut
gallery...
even tho they REALLY dont matter, its kinda like a litmus test that if it goes
well you can say, ok... that really may be the best choice...
-- tony
i agree, but how can we lead if we let them decide who should run our country?
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Tony wrote:
> isnt it kinda proven that other countries could learn
> a lot by following our lead? why not be the flagship for them?
> rather than the bully? really?
>
~~~
isnt it kinda proven that other countries could learn
a lot by following our lead? why not be the flagship for them?
rather than the bully? really?
-- tony
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
-- siddhartha gautama
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Robert Munn <[
whatever. we'll care as soon as everyone else cares what americans
think about who should be running their countries.
On 7/21/08, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You may want to start caring, given how much the US now is dependent on the
> rest of the world. I'd give the US a week if ther
well, not to jump on my alter ego G-Money, but i care.
i care what other countries perceive of my country.
i care if they like us or dont.
i want whirled peas.
-- tony
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
-- siddhartha gautama
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Larr
You may want to start caring, given how much the US now is dependent on the
rest of the world. I'd give the US a week if there was a comprehensive energy
embargo for instance.
>From what you're writing about, its rather obvious how clueless you are about
>the rest of the world and its attitudes
Well, as I've said in the past, I don't really give a shit about what the
rest of the world thinks of us. We have to do what is right for US. It just
so happens that at this time, those two seem to be the same thingelect
Obama.
Remember, the rest of the world only cares about what they think i
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/21/mccain.obama/index.html
the rest of the world that has grown to dislike america may actually see
that we are fed up with the current administration and the likes (mccain)
such that we are prepared to make sooo much change that we would
have our first african-
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