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What's wrong with asking for a minimum of a bachelors in a technical field?
I thought that was a pretty common requirement...
On 8/27/07, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CF-Jobs is for job postings.
CF-Jobs-Talk is for talking about how recruiters tend not to follow the
directions
Most jobs I have applied for required a 4 degree and some did prefer a
masters. Seems to be happening more and more these days. Matter of fact
the sole reason I have been doing contract work for 6+ years for the same
company is because they require a 4 year degree and I am a year or two away
Wow... if you have been contracting with them for 6 years only because you
did not have your degree. Not cool. I would look into that
On 8/27/07, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most jobs I have applied for required a 4 degree and some did prefer a
masters. Seems to be happening more
Most big companies pay people based upon their education level combined with
other factors. So if you lack pieces of what is required then your pay
grade goes down. I would make a significant amount less if I took a full
time job without a 4 year degree(I have a 2 year one, but that is
It may not be specifically applicable to the job in terms of skills/knowledge
directly relating to what you are going to be doing, but if it is, they will
usually say degree in related field. Often what I've seen is 4-year degree in
applicable field, or equivalent experience. For some, having
I forgot to mention this factor. Here in the DC area, lots of work is
contracting for the federal government and you get to charge the government
different rates based both on experience as well as education. So having a BA,
BS, MA, or MS will all get you slightly different rates in addition
On 8/27/07, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Crow T. Robot wrote:
What's wrong with asking for a minimum of a bachelors in a technical
field?
I thought that was a pretty common requirement...
Well, I haven't seen it much, but then again, I don't have one, so
perhaps I just
Douglas Knudsen wrote:
That said, you can certainly learn all these things OTJ or as a hobby, but I
wouldn't just wave aside this knowledge. Heck, a few world famous
Mathematicians were actually hobbyists, Fermat for example.
I am sorry for not being more clear on what I was thinking. I
;-0
My only point was that I was surprised that you were limited by a company
you'd worked for for 6+ years.
I would think that after a few years, they would want to make the investment
in you as an employee.
Generally, companies want the degree but also want the experience. After 6
years,
Anything can be learned, but on the job I have not learned any of the things
I was thinking about in my prior email. I have been doing this specific
work for around a decade now and I work with people who have been doing it a
good bit longer than that, those people IMHO have not learned anywhere
I would have thought the same but experience has taught me otherwise.
Looking around some I have learned this is not the only big company with
some similar HR rules. I have had HR tell me two times in the past 2-3
years when I was recommended for full time jobs that after looking into it
the pay
Just a note from a graduate with a degree not at all associated with
computers and yet, I am in the computer industry.
College degrees should include more than courses in computer science. I
have taken courses in computer science recently. I don't remember the last
time I did bubble sorts in the
In today's environment, someone who went through college in 4 years
would strike me as extremely committed and driven. Most people I went
to school with were in for longer than that, even though the degree was
officially a 4 year degree.
That said, I don't think the degree argument is
Something else that happens is that HR people who expect to get a lot of
applications for a given job will include the educational requirement just
to cut down on applicants, or as an easy means to rule applicants out
without reading more than the education section of their resume. While this
I agree, Gary.
Just in case anybody understood my previous post, I'm definitely not saying
degrees are useless. I have an MS in Computer Information Systems myself,
and a BA in Psych Music from a liberal (in the scholastic sense)
university. I'm just suggesting that degree requirements are
If you want to go through life only able to discuss what you saw during
NASCAR on tv yesterday, and what you know in computing, then yes, you don't
need a degree. But I hope your life could be fuller than that.
BA '65
Alife has now been revealedif you didn't go to school you
In today's environment, someone who went through college in 4 years
would strike me as extremely committed and driven. Most people I went
to school with were in for longer than that, even though the degree was
officially a 4 year degree.
That said, I don't think the degree argument is
And lest any argumentational stone be unturned, I'll point out that you can
still be well-educated and informed without a post-secondary degree, or even
a high school diploma - in the Internet age it's all about the person
and one's desire and ability to learn, not necessarily time spent in a
Bryan Stevenson wrote:
In today's environment, someone who went through college in 4 years
would strike me as extremely committed and driven. Most people I went
to school with were in for longer than that, even though the degree was
officially a 4 year degree.
That said, I don't think the
Jeffry Houser wrote:
Bryan Stevenson wrote:
Going to school for a degree just means jumping through hoops and
paying way too much for it to me.
I believe a lot of people go to college w/o a focus, and that
I spaced.
Going to college w/o a focus seems like a waste of time / energy /
I spaced.
Going to college w/o a focus seems like a waste of time / energy /
money. I wouldn't recommend it. But, if you have agood idea of why
you're going, go for it.
Yepand it's not like I didin't pick a focus (business), but even that I
knew
before junior high.
I wentI had
A lot of kids coming out of high school rarely have a real idea of
what they want. When I did undergrad advising, it was suggested to me
that the students get as broad of a coverage in their first and second
years (freshman and junior to Americans). While officially the reason
was the University's
On 8/27/07, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeffry Houser wrote:
Bryan Stevenson wrote:
Going to school for a degree just means jumping through hoops and
paying way too much for it to me.
I believe a lot of people go to college w/o a focus, and that
I spaced.
Going to
Hi Cameron,
Are you still looking out for a Coldfusion Developer to develop the
projects ?
Regards,
Mahesh Poojary Subject: One-person shop looking for application
developers From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
com Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 14:10:55 -0400 Hi, all. I'm a
Hello, Mahesh and everybody.
I got a good response from the community, so I'm not looking for any more
developers at this time.
Thank you,
Cameron Johnson
Hi Cameron,
Are you still looking out for a Coldfusion Developer to develop the
projects ?
Regards,
Mahesh Poojary
Douglas Knudsen wrote:
On 8/27/07, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeffry Houser wrote:
Bryan Stevenson wrote:
Going to school for a degree just means jumping through hoops and
paying way too much for it to me.
I believe a lot of people go to college w/o a focus, and that
I
Join the military, just try not to join a branch that will make ya a bullet
stopper
On 8/27/07, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Still, I think it is an expensive way to gain a focus. Surely there
must be more cost effective ways?
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