And here I thought that no one noticed when I wore my BD t-shirt. I
did get a lot of reations when I wore an Allaire t-shirt though.
larry
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:09:54 -0500, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You could always become a heckler. Maybe you can be "that Guy" who was
> we
The part that gets me is that HR should have no part in the employment
process beyond paperwork filing. Why the appointment of technical
positions is left to clueless HR people is beyond me, but HR seem to
crave this power. When a job is opened the hiring manager should be
told the budget range a
g a tech support job for a year to help make
>ends meet while looking for a CF job, so I wasn't in a mood to argue :)
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Jobs-Talk"
>Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8
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Subject: Re: Salary change when rolling permanent
65+ also depends on your Market area, in DC thats believable but in
Ohio I wouldn't expect to see 65+ very often. As for CFunited if I go I'll
dig around the cats litter box and clean off my .NET shirt and wear it :)
Adam H
On Thu,
ry 17, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Salary change when rolling permanent
> Of course you could have probably gotten more...
> Never throw out your best offer first. First rule of negotiating. :-)
>
> At 05:08 PM 2/17/2005, you wrote:
>>Yes. Definitely let them make you an
So you will be "That stinky guy" ?
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:59:59 -0500, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 65+ also depends on your Market area, in DC thats believable but in
> Ohio I wouldn't expect to see 65+ very often. As for CFunited if I go
> I'll dig around the cats litter box and c
65+ also depends on your Market area, in DC thats believable but in
Ohio I wouldn't expect to see 65+ very often. As for CFunited if I go
I'll dig around the cats litter box and clean off my .NET shirt and
wear it :)
Adam H
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:59:29 -0600, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
haha ... well I have never made it to one of those conventions so have
not been able to wittness such hecklers. I am planning to go to
CFUnited this year though, so maybe I could dig up some odd-ball shirt
and be "That Guy"
I doubt there are many CF people just flat out rolling in dough. :)
I m
You could always become a heckler. Maybe you can be "that Guy" who was
wearing a BlueDragon T-Shirt at Max.
I don't want to give the impression that I'm rolling in dough, though. I
don't make $100 an hour. Many days I'm just happy to be working at all.
To put price into perspective, fr
rsday, February 17, 2005 3:28 PM
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>
> One suggestion is for you to let them make you an offer, and you determine
>if that offer is acceptable or not based on the research you have done. You
>can always go back in a
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From: "Charlotte Dodge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Jobs-Talk"
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Salary change when rolling permanent
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One suggestion is for you to let them make you an offer, and you determine
if that offer is acce
Thanks a ton, it relieves only some of my anxiety.
Although I'm still below your bottom and I have a
range of ability in programming (been working on perl
and asp in the last two weeks). I'm still not entirely
relieved.
But I believe I'm locationally challenged. Chicagoland
seems to be tighter on
As an HR Manager / Recruiter, my suggestion would be for you to do a salary
survey of your local area to determine what the current market rate is for
someone with your skill set (look at www.salary.com). This will give you an
idea of where to start at least. You will definately not see a sala
> Of course, I've lost just as many projects because I'm "too expensive".
Boy do I hate that one...client's that doon't want their apps to work "too
correctly" ;-)
Cheers
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 2
Man, I need to write a book and speak at some conferences. Do I have
to be an official speaker or can I just hang out in the parking lot?
;)
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:03:35 -0500, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I chose those numbers because 100 is easy to break up into percentages.
>
I chose those numbers because 100 is easy to break up into percentages.
All that said, the amount you make really comes down to how well you sell
yourself to the client / employer / recruiter. A lot of the things I've
done (Write books, speak at conferences, write articles, etc.. ) help me
Wow...where were ya before the bubble burst?? ;-)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.electricedgesystems.com
~~
Been my experience you only get those rates from rather big companies.
My pay range has fluctuated so much over the years of doing CF that
I'd hate to see a graph on it.
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:50:54 -0800 (PST), Joshua OConnor-Rose
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Holy Cow!!! I need to reconsider my
Holy Cow!!! I need to reconsider my situation if this
is even a high average. I've been developing CF for
about 7 years and I only dream of getting the lowest
figure you listed.
> If you want to assume that the contractor is
> getting paid twice what you
> are (If you get paid $50 an hour, they
This is a tricky subject no matter how you slice it.
Most companies budget 25%-35% of a persons salary for benefits. So,
theoretically, that is the amount your income will drop when moving from a
contractor to a full time employee, but you'll notice no change in
compensation, because you a
Good afternoon,
I am currently contracting at a great firm that is probably going to offer me a
permanent position in the near future. I am contracting through an agency,
which I know for a fact has a limited mark-up due to the number of people the
agency places here, but I don't know the mark
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