Re: [CF-metadata] physical vs dimensional units

2011-04-14 Thread John Caron
On 4/13/2011 2:52 PM, Steve Emmerson wrote: On 04/13/2011 02:25 PM, John Caron wrote: the point im trying to make is that it would be better to understand that "mol mol-1" (canonical udunit = 1) is not the same as "m3 m-3" (canonical udunit = 1). In my opinion, the distinction between "mol/mol

[CF-metadata] wrong description for runoff_flux

2011-04-14 Thread Paola Petrelli
Hi, I'm not sure if this the right place to post this, I'm getting this description for runoff_flux in the html standard name table The geoid is a surface of constant geopotential with which mean sea level would coincide if the ocean were at rest. (The volume enclosed between the geoid and the s

Re: [CF-metadata] physical vs dimensional units

2011-04-14 Thread Cameron-smith, Philip
Hi All, Reinforcing Martin's point, if a plotting package produces plots labeled with 1e-9 as a unit, I will manually edit the plot to replace the unit with mol/mol, kg/kg, Kg(CH4)/kg(air), or whatever is appropriate. Otherwise it produces great confusion, since the numerical values are differ

Re: [CF-metadata] Request for help relating Netcdf file and the projection issues!

2011-04-14 Thread Sami Khanal
Hi Dave, You are right that the file does not have any projection information embedded in it and I don't know what it should be. I am obtaining this data from climatologist who are using WRF model to generate different climate change scenarios. They are not much familiar with ArcGIS so I am trying

Re: [CF-metadata] physical vs dimensional units

2011-04-14 Thread Schultz, Martin
> Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:52:26 -0600 > From: Steve Emmerson > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] physical vs dimensional units > To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu > Message-ID: <4da60d0a.1010...@unidata.ucar.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 04/13/2011 02:25 PM, John C

Re: [CF-metadata] physical vs dimensional units

2011-04-14 Thread Hattersley, Richard
Hi John, > A "physical quantities" library separate from udunits could > provide some assistance in detecting when two quantities can > be added with unit convertsion, eg "add m and feet" but not > "add mol/mol and m3/m3". > > The udunits Unix command doesn't accept garbage garbage-1 > as a va

Re: [CF-metadata] Request for help relating Netcdf file and the projection issues!

2011-04-14 Thread Steve Ansari
Hi Sami, The Weather and Climate Toolkit ( http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/wct ) can handle curvilinear grids (2D lat/lon coordinate variables) and export nearest-neighbor resampled lat/lon data to a variety of GIS formats including ArcInfo ASCII GRID, GeoTIFF and NetCDF 3. The export can be run from

Re: [CF-metadata] Request for help relating Netcdf file and the projection issues!

2011-04-14 Thread David Blodgett
Your file appears to already be in lat/lon with no datum specified do you know what the data should be? Since it is curvilinear, ArcGIS won't read it as gridded data. Arc only really operates on "raster" grids.You have to import it as a collection of points using "Make NetCDF Feature Layer".

Re: [CF-metadata] physical vs dimensional units

2011-04-14 Thread John Caron
Hi Jonathan: On 4/14/2011 2:14 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote: Dear John and Steve I agree with Steve about this: On 04/13/2011 02:25 PM, John Caron wrote: the point im trying to make is that it would be better to understand that "mol mol-1" (canonical udunit = 1) is not the same as "m3 m-3" (c

Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for new standard names: depth/bathy/topo rel to datum

2011-04-14 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hello Justin/Jonathan, To me, the term or concept 'bathymetry' is the spatial variation of seafloor depth and should only be applied to a grouping of depth measurements with associated co-ordinate variables and not to just a depth parameter. Cheers, Roy. -Original Message- From: cf-met

Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for new standard names: depth/bathy/topo rel to datum

2011-04-14 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Justin > sea_floor_depth_below_reference_datum (positive down) looks fine to me. Isn't this the same thing: > bathymetry_below_reference_datum (postive down) "bathymetry" means sea-floor depth, doesn't it? For consistency with other stdnames, in particular height_above_reference_ellip

Re: [CF-metadata] physical vs dimensional units

2011-04-14 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear John and Steve I agree with Steve about this: > On 04/13/2011 02:25 PM, John Caron wrote: > > the point im trying to make is that it would be better to understand > > that "mol mol-1" (canonical udunit = 1) is not the same as "m3 m-3" > > (canonical udunit = 1). > > In my opinion, the dist

Re: [CF-metadata] [Standard name request] property changes over time

2011-04-14 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Paul We don't see to be speaking the same language. As I understand it these four quantities you are proposing should all be change_over_time_in_X. That's what they are, isn't it? > sea_water_salinity_change > sea_water_temperature_change > sea_water_potential_temperature_change > sea_water_