Re: [CF-metadata] FW: GOES-R metadata prototype

2012-03-07 Thread John Caron
hi michael 1) There are a few typos (see attached) that made it invalid NcML. also ".ncml" suffix is preferred over ".xml" 2) for cdm_data_type, i might not call this a grid, maybe "image" is better. the satellite group should probably come up with a feature type name for geostationary data. 3

[CF-metadata] FW: GOES-R metadata prototype

2012-03-07 Thread Carlomusto, Michael
_ From: Carlomusto, Michael Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 5:20 PM To: 'CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu' Subject: GOES-R metadata prototype The attached NcML file has been vetted by a small group of people from the CF metadata list, especially with regard

[CF-metadata] tickets regarding Projections and WKT representation

2012-03-07 Thread Etienne Tourigny
Hi all, I would like to point out the following 3 tickets I have created in trac, regarding Projections and WKT (Well-Known Text) representation. The first two have been created 1 month ago and there has been almost no responses. 1) fix documentation and definitions of 3 grid mapping definitions

Re: [CF-metadata] warming up old stuff - part 1: aerosol mie scattering

2012-03-07 Thread Markus Fiebig
Dear Martin, thanks for the hint with the definition term! I would therefore like to propose to name and define the discussed variable: "volume_scattering_coefficient_in_air_due_to_ambient_aerosol_assuming_mie_scattering" The volume scattering coefficient is the fractional change of radiative f

Re: [CF-metadata] Warming up old stuff - 4 (emissions)

2012-03-07 Thread Smith, Steven J (PNNL-JGCRI)
I'm very pleased to see this discussion taking place! The issue of emissions height is important. In many cases there is insufficient data to clarify this, so it's rather ambiguous (some IND emissions will be low, some will be high stacks). So we need to be careful not to imply precision that d

[CF-metadata] new standard names for surface aerosol optical properties

2012-03-07 Thread Markus Fiebig
Dear all, since the WMO Global Atmosphere Watch (GAW) programme is moving towards using CF standard names as standard vocabulary, I'd like to propose a few standard names that represent aerosol properties being observed at the GAW surface sites. Since there seem to be various opinions about the

Re: [CF-metadata] repost warming up old stuff - part 4: emissions (hit send too early)

2012-03-07 Thread Schultz, Martin
Dear Heiko, you are of course right that this cannot be the end of it. Yet, I think it is very important to get these standard names into the list soon, because there are already large data sets with these categories (the "ACCMIP" emissions produced for chemistry calculations to support IP

Re: [CF-metadata] warming up old stuff - part 1: aerosol mie scattering

2012-03-07 Thread Schultz, Martin
Dear Markus, good to hear that you are taking this up as a GAW initiative. Personally I wouldn't have a problem with your suggestion, but I'd like to refer this discussion to the more aerosol-oriented community. Small change (lowercase "mie"). Hence your name would read "volume_scattering_

Re: [CF-metadata] warming up old stuff - part 1: aerosol mie scattering

2012-03-07 Thread Markus Fiebig
Dear Martin, thanks for filling me in on the background of this discussion! This must have happened before I joined the mailing list, and I do need to admit it's a hassle to read through the whole archive. I do see your point, i.e. that you describe a modelled variable, but I still think it is

Re: [CF-metadata] warming up old stuff - part 1: aerosol mie scattering

2012-03-07 Thread Schultz, Martin
Dear Markus, thanks for the thoughtful response. I cc this to Uma Shankar who had sent me the RSIG (http://badger.epa.gov/rsig/) CMAQ variable list from where this suggestion originated. CMAQ is of course a model. I don't think it would hurt to have also standard_names for pure model qua

Re: [CF-metadata] Warming up old stuff - 4 (emissions)

2012-03-07 Thread Schultz, Martin
Dear Alison (cc Hugo, Steve, Greg), > Looking back to the original proposal, > http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/pipermail/cf-metadata/2011/027071.html, you > have provided definitions of the emissions sectors in terms of 2006 IPCC > source categories. I have found the following document: http://www.ipc

Re: [CF-metadata] repost warming up old stuff - part 4: emissions (hit send too early)

2012-03-07 Thread alison.pamment
Dear Heiko, In response to your point about trac, the current practice is to for standard names proposals to be made on the mailing list and discussed here. The trac system is used to discuss proposals for changes to the conventions document. Thank you for your comments about the sectors. I am

Re: [CF-metadata] repost warming up old stuff - part 4: emissions (hit send too early)

2012-03-07 Thread Heiko Klein
Hi Martin, I guess you are referring to your emails from http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/pipermail/cf-metadata/2011/027072.html . I agree that the CF-standard names haven't been updated in quite a while (since July?). But it seems like there are still some open issues concerning the sectors. I t

[CF-metadata] Warming up old stuff - 4 (emissions)

2012-03-07 Thread alison.pamment
Dear Martin, Regarding the emission names, I note the supporting emails from Greg Frost and Steve Smith and I think there is no question that we want to be able to represent these quantities within CF. The only concern is to ensure that the names themselves are unambiguous and consistent with e

Re: [CF-metadata] warming up old stuff - part 1: aerosol mie scattering

2012-03-07 Thread Markus Fiebig
Dear all, please excuse if I come in late into this discussion, but I would like to make a few comments about the proposed variable name "volume_extinction_coefficient_in_air_due_to_mie_scattering_of_ambient_aerosol" As it is written above, the name is self-contradicting. The aerosol extinction

[CF-metadata] Warming up old stuff - 1, 2, 3 (air quality, aerosols)

2012-03-07 Thread alison.pamment
Dear Martin, The table has not been updated since July 2011 which is why your names are not published at the moment. I had planned to do an update in December but had some technical problems which caused the vocab editor to keep crashing. These are fixed now and I agree that an update is well o