Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-26 Thread Nan Galbraith
On 3/26/12 1:35 PM, Jonathan Gregory wrote: ... Regarding Nan's point, I would say that we do want CF to be inclusive. It would be a mistake to impose irrelevant requirements that deterred people from using the convention. In the case you mention, the chapter 9 convention for profiles wouldn't al

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-26 Thread Randy Horne
Jonathan: We are putting in fill values for these off-earth points in the data variables. very respectfully, randy Randy C. Horne (rho...@excaliburlabs.com) Principal Engineer, Excalibur Laboratories Inc. voice & fax: (321) 952-5100 url: http://www.excaliburlabs.com PGP Public Keys available

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-26 Thread Nan Galbraith
Hi all - From a CDM developer perspective, an auxiliary coordinate is "just as good" as a regular coordinate variable. The extra requirements on coordinate variables are helpful in knowing when to optimize, eg monotonicity allows one to efficiently find the index given the coordinate value

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-26 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear all Regarding Randy's reply: > In the case of GOES-R (and also Meteosat) our coordinate variable values are > N/S elevation angle and E/W scanning angle, which can be syntactically valid > values albeit off the disk of the earth. In this case, are there data values, or is the data missing

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-26 Thread John Caron
Hi all: From a CDM developer perspective, an auxiliary coordinate is "just as good" as a regular coordinate variable. The extra requirements on coordinate variables are helpful in knowing when to optimize, eg monotonicity allows one to efficiently find the index given the coordinate value.

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-26 Thread Jim Biard
I am working with satellite data, and I, for example, have timestamps that arrive in the data stream along with sensor measurements. I can have independent missing values in both my time variable and my measurement variables. I want to preserve all the incoming data, and the restriction on "true"

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-26 Thread Nan Galbraith
Hi Jonathan - For underway CTD profiles (gliders and floats, too, I'd think) if the pressure sensor fails intermittently, you can approximate Z by interpolating over time, assuming there are good values along the track. In "final" data, we might do that, but we might like to present raw data

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-26 Thread Randy Horne
Folks: Regarding the geosync request for comment . In the case of GOES-R (and also Meteosat) our coordinate variable values are N/S elevation angle and E/W scanning angle, which can be syntactically valid values albeit off the disk of the earth. However, it is very possible that there will

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-26 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Nan and John It's a good thing we're having this discussion! In my understanding, we have always prohibiting missing data in aux coord vars, and in section 9 we explicitly allowed for the first time. Evidently we should be clear, one way or the other (which was one of the intentions of the de

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-26 Thread John Caron
On 3/26/2012 2:24 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote: Dear Ros Regarding this requirement: 9.6 Where any auxiliary coordinate variable contains a missing value, all other coordinate, auxiliary coordinate and data values corresponding to that element should also contain missing values. Appendix A note

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-26 Thread Nan Galbraith
I was unaware of this restriction on aux coordinate variables. On 3/26/12 4:24 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote: Appendix A notes that missing data is allowed in aux coord vars only in the case of discrete sampling geometries. This means the checker could regard it as an error also if it finds any mis

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-26 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Ros Regarding this requirement: > 9.6 Where any auxiliary coordinate variable contains a missing value, all > other coordinate, auxiliary coordinate and data values corresponding to that > element should also contain missing values. Appendix A notes that missing data is allowed in aux coord