Re: [CF-metadata] [lc-cci] proposal for new CF standard names for land cover observation and classification

2012-03-28 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Martin I don't think that anyone has responded on the CF email list to your detailed email at the end of Jan, have they? (in the archive at: http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/pipermail/cf-metadata/2012/027738.html) That is a pity and I hope that there will be other responses. Thank you for your

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-28 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear all Brian has a good point that sect 5.3 allows that there might be missing data in aux coord variables. Appendix A - which is equally ancient in the story of CF :-) - is not consistent with this, because it didn't allow _FillValue or missing_value atts for coordinates until sect 9 was

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-28 Thread Randy Horne
Jonathan: not to belabour , but in the interest of clarity, For GOES-R level 1 and 2 hemispheric products ... there are non-existent points, at which the data vars have missing values and the aux coord vars have (syntactically) valid values. note that placing (syntactically) valid values in

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-28 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Randy Thanks for the clarification. I see no problem in having missing data where there are non-missing aux coord vars. This is a usual situation. Best wishes Jonathan ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-28 Thread Jim Biard
The only thing that designates a variable as an auxiliary coordinate variable is the presence of the variable name in a coordinates attribute on another variable. There is nothing intrinsic to the variable that designates it as a coordinate variable. (Not so for true coordinate variables.) For

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-28 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Jim The only thing that designates a variable as an auxiliary coordinate variable is the presence of the variable name in a coordinates attribute on another variable. Formally, that is right. By definition, a CF aux coord var is one which is named by a coordinates attribute. The

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-28 Thread John Caron
On 3/28/2012 6:26 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote: Dear all Brian has a good point that sect 5.3 allows that there might be missing data in aux coord variables. Appendix A - which is equally ancient in the story of CF :-) - is not consistent with this, because it didn't allow _FillValue or

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-28 Thread John Caron
On 3/28/2012 10:49 AM, John Caron wrote: I think we have a number of valid use cases for missing data in aux coordinates, and i would vote to allow that. sorry i didnt really answer jonathan's concern. I would suggest this wording: Auxiliary coordinates do not have to be monotonic or have

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-28 Thread John Graybeal
suggest the more general but applications using the auxiliary coordinates to work with data may respond unpredictably when the auxiliary coordinates are missing. john On Mar 28, 2012, at 10:07, John Caron wrote: On 3/28/2012 10:49 AM, John Caron wrote: I think we have a number of valid use