Re: [CF-metadata] The use of CF cell constructs for point data

2012-04-11 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Randy Why have you not used a cell_measure attribute in the event_energy data variable to associate this data variable with the event_area data variable as shown in example 7.3 in the CF standard (e.g. :cell_measures = area: event_area ? I wondered about doing that too. I didn't do

Re: [CF-metadata] Using add_offset scale_factor with coordinate variables

2012-04-11 Thread Randy Horne
The allure of using add_offset scale_factor with coordinate variables goes beyond saving space. For example, in our use case … (1) Makes the s/w producing the product simpler. (2) The scale_factor also tells you what the horizontal spatial resolution is in a representation that aligns with

[CF-metadata] one to many relationships between data variables

2012-04-11 Thread Randy Horne
Folks: The GOES-R system will be generating a lightning detection product. This product has multiple data variables that have relationships that do not appear to be captured with the CF cell or ancillary data constructs. For example, there is a one data variable that is a result of measuring

Re: [CF-metadata] Using add_offset scale_factor with coordinate variables

2012-04-11 Thread Jim Biard
Hi. I'm not against expanding the use of scale and offset, per se, but the reasons that you would like to use them seem (to me) to not be generally applicable. Argument 1) implies that you obtain some sort of measurable benefit from saving one multiplication and one addition in your

Re: [CF-metadata] one to many relationships between data variables

2012-04-11 Thread Jim Biard
Randy, Then you are free! Whatever scheme that you develop won't be a CF scheme (at least not for now), but all you have to do is avoid violating CF with what you do. If what you develop seems robust and general, you may end up being the parent of a new CF convention. Grace and peace, Jim

Re: [CF-metadata] Using add_offset scale_factor with coordinate variables

2012-04-11 Thread Randy Horne
Jim: In our use case, software is simplified, not because of the removal of a multiply and an addition, but as a result of the coordinate variable values always having values starting at 0, and ascending monotonically and sequentially (i.e. 0, 1, 2, 3 …n), and just pulling specific add_offsets

Re: [CF-metadata] Using add_offset scale_factor with coordinate variables

2012-04-11 Thread Etienne Tourigny
have you looked closely into reduced grids and compressed grids? http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-conventions/1.5/cf-conventions.html#reduced-horizontal-grid http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-conventions/1.5/cf-conventions.html#compression-by-gathering On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:23 PM,

Re: [CF-metadata] Using add_offset scale_factor with coordinate variables

2012-04-11 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Randy While I understand why this would be convenient for you, I'm inclined to think that your convenience would be outweighed by the inconvenience to the users of the data in this case. I don't expect there is any existing CF-aware analysis software which would expect to unpack coordinate

Re: [CF-metadata] Using add_offset scale_factor with coordinate variables

2012-04-11 Thread John Caron
On 4/11/2012 3:59 PM, Jonathan Gregory wrote: Dear Randy While I understand why this would be convenient for you, I'm inclined to think that your convenience would be outweighed by the inconvenience to the users of the data in this case. I don't expect there is any existing CF-aware analysis