Re: [CF-metadata] [sdn2-tech] RE: proposed standard names for Enterococcus and Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Cameron-smith, Philip
Hi Roy, Don't get me wrong. I am supportive. My email was from one traveler to another, letting Alessandra know what was on the road ahead. I have argued in the past in favor of having chemicals be a separate variable/dimension. And I still think it would be a good idea. Hence, I would suppor

[CF-metadata] Keeping taxon names out of Standard Names

2013-03-25 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear All, I am considering setting up a Trac ticket aimed at making the following changes to the standard 1) Addition of a section on handling biological data in CF 2) Addition of a couple of parameter attributes for taxon name and taxon identifier (e.g. Aphia ID) 3) Proposing a set of generi

[CF-metadata] Standard name table update

2013-03-25 Thread alison.pamment
Dear All, The standard name table was updated earlier today with the list of changes detailed below. The current version of the table is now version 23, dated 23 March 2013. The changes have also been published on the NERC vocabulary server. John Maurer and Andreas Hilboll have been added to

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear all I agree with Philip that cfu should be spelled out. I was also going to make the same point about Roy's proposal being different from our treatment of chemical species, which are encoded in the standard name; this system seems to be working. One reason for keeping this approach was the "g

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name: datetime_iso8601

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Aleksandar > > Is the proposal for the use of date-time strings in auxiliary coordinate > > variables only, not in (Unidata) coordinate variables, > > to provide a human-readable equivalent to the encoded time coordinate > > variable? > > Not exclusively. It could be used for that purpose

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name: datetime_iso8601

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear John > Probably my proposal comes down to 2 parts, which are separable: > > 1. Find a suitable replacement for udunits as a reference library > for CF calendar dates. Unfortunately, udunits used a slightly > non-standard syntax, which we need to still be legal for backwards > compatibility.

Re: [CF-metadata] how to store satellite groundpixel geometry?

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Andreas > > The convention does not yet > > have a standard representation for satellite swath data. > > Is this something which might change? I could try to make an according > proposal, if you guys think this would be within the scope of the CF > convention. ... > I will probably go for o

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Thanks Jonathan, I was indeed responsible for introducing 'green dogs' to discussions in CF, but since then my experience has expanded further into biological data and, in particular, into the world of contaminants in biota through EMODNET and our work in BODC with the Sea Mammal Research Unit.

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name: datetime_iso8601

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jonathan Gregory >> 2. Allow a suitable string syntax for date/times, probably expressed >> as a profile of ISO8601 ..snip... > Obviously opinion is divided on this, if it means allowing time-date coord > variables which are string-valued, as an alternative to th

[CF-metadata] CF trac ticket summary update

2013-03-25 Thread David Hassell
Hello, The summary of CF Metadata Trac tickets has been updated for the 25th March 2013. (http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/~david/cf_trac_summary.html). Currently: 27 tickets have been accepted [green] 5 tickets are in active discussion in the last 3 weeks [yellow] 12 tickets are dormant [red] Sinc

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Roy I think it would be fine and preferable to use someone else's controlled vocabulary so long as it has an appropriate format and content and/or we can define rules for using it in CF. Best wishes Jonathan ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadat

Re: [CF-metadata] Question from NODC about interplay of standard name modifiers, cell_methods, etc.

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Ken > Thanks for your response too (copied here? is it bad form in a listserv to > consolidate responses like this?) I think it's convenient, myself! > That answer seems so easy and obvious that I wonder if I asked the question > properly! I'll have to ask Tim to be sure, but I think the

Re: [CF-metadata] Question from NODC about interplay of standard name modifiers, cell_methods, etc.

2013-03-25 Thread Steve Hankin
On 3/25/2013 10:40 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote: Dear Ken Thanks for your response too (copied here? is it bad form in a listserv to consolidate responses like this?) I think it's convenient, myself! That answer seems so easy and obvious that I wonder if I asked the question properly! I'll

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Nan Galbraith
Hi all - Species taxonomies are not like chemical vocabularies, in that terms for organisms change over time. There are some big projects involved in maintaining these taxonomies, and we probably don't want to commit to launching a parallel effort. The ubio project has a decent description of th

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Hassan Moustahfid - NOAA Federal
I will encourage you to check bio terms in Darwin Core http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/index.htm. and http://www.ioos.noaa.gov/dmac/biology/welcome.html. Hassan *Hassan Moustahfid, PhD. Biology/Ecosystem Observing Lead *NOAA/ U.S. Integrated Ocean Observing System (IOOS) Program Office Operations Divi

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread John Graybeal
+1 Nan, great summary CF should prepare for the day when it needs to interoperate with multiple authorities, e.g., 2 different species vocabularies. It will not be possible for one vocabulary to serve all the scientific needs. We are on the right track here, let's see if we can solve the whol

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Jim Biard
Hi. This sounds like a good plan. I think there should be an attribute with a specific name to carry the taxonomic details. It probably will occur in the long name as well, but I don't like the idea of making the long name the "official" repository for that information. It's not my arena, so

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Hassan Moustahfid - NOAA Federal
Hi folks. I don't know if you received what I sent early about IOOS Biological Data services termnilogy and Darwin Core standards. If you want to create your own vocab go ahead. we will keep talking to our self. I think there is now an opportunity to figure out how to talk between CF and Darwin Co