Re: [CF-metadata] Daily mean temperature

2014-09-10 Thread Karl Taylor
Hi Dan, Seth, and all, I'm not sure I understand what the practice is; do you calculate the daily mean from the max and min temperature that you read at 0900 GMT. If so, then I think it is straight-forward: the max and min temperatures occurred in the 24 hour period ending at 0900 GMT, and t

[CF-metadata] downward_air_velocity

2014-09-10 Thread Kehoe, Kenneth E.
Dear CF-metadata, I would like to propose a new standard_name to complement upward_air_velocity. upward_air_velocity uses positive values to indicate upward direction, but we have many instrument that use a convention of positive values to indicate downward direction. Can we clone upward_air_ve

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Conventions and netCDF-4 enhanced model

2014-09-10 Thread Jim Biard
John, If I can get my management to allow me time for that, I'd love to be involved. Jim On 9/10/14, 2:34 PM, John Caron wrote: Hi Karl and all: NetCDF-4 compression and chunking are transparent to the user, and are compatible with the "classic data model". I think we should be gathering

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Conventions and netCDF-4 enhanced model

2014-09-10 Thread John Caron
Hi Karl and all: NetCDF-4 compression and chunking are transparent to the user, and are compatible with the "classic data model". I think we should be gathering experiences with the enhanced data model, and start a CF-2.X convention draft document that uses the enhanced model. It would also be a

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Conventions and netCDF-4 enhanced model

2014-09-10 Thread Corey Bettenhausen
Tim, There was a discussion of this last year. See the archives: http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/pipermail/cf-metadata/2013/author.html Particularly, the thread "Towards recognizing and exploiting hierarchical groups": http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/pipermail/cf-metadata/2013/056827.html Cheers, -Core

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Conventions and netCDF-4 enhanced model

2014-09-10 Thread Karl Taylor
Russ and all, One aspect of netCDF-4 we almost certainly expect to make use of for CMIP6 is the "automated" compression option. As far as I know, this does not affect the conventions. If you see a problem with this, please let me know right away. Karl lem any On 9/10/14, 9:16 AM, Russ Rew

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Conventions and netCDF-4 enhanced model

2014-09-10 Thread Russ Rew
Jim, I'm hoping more data providers follow your approach, as it will gradually bring along software developers, other data providers, and ultimately conventions authors. I gave a talk at AGU a few years back about how to manage

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Conventions and netCDF-4 enhanced model

2014-09-10 Thread Jim Biard
Tim, You can use netCDF-4 without "classic" format, but for true, full CF compliance you can't use any new features. Personal opinion alert!!! The following is just my personal opinion. I'm not trying to stir up trouble. I'm just sharing my observations on my experiences. Please don't hate m

[CF-metadata] CF Conventions and netCDF-4 enhanced model

2014-09-10 Thread Timothy Patterson
Is it correct to say that, although they don't explicitly state it, the CF conventions (1.6 and the draft 1.7) restrict compliant netCDF products to be either netCDF-3 or netCDF-4 in classic format? There are no conventions for the enhanced features such as groups and user-defined types like enu