Re: [CF-metadata] downward_air_velocity

2014-09-12 Thread Ben Hetland
Dear Richard and others, > If we tried to be prescriptive, it might either (a) prevent > people from using CF, or (b) using it incorrectly, because it > didn't quite fit their needs, but they didn't want to change > how they did things. or (c) using it incorrectly because they didn't quite unders

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name: number_of_days_with_surface_temperature_below_threshold

2014-09-12 Thread John Graybeal
Sorry for the blocked link. The problem could be either that the visible URL didn't match the link URL (thought I checked that but ...), or that the short URL is immediately redirected by the service (using a 302 temporary redirect) to a longer URL (http://mmisw.org/orr/#http://mmisw.org/ont/cf

Re: [CF-metadata] area types table

2014-09-12 Thread John Graybeal
> Would it be possible to link it from the CF standard name page until this can > be done by PCMDI? Of course you are welcome to link to it as desired. There is a more attractive view Carlos put together using his prototype vocabulary browser -- that link is http://mmisw.org/experimental/vbro

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name: number_of_days_with_surface_temperature_below_threshold

2014-09-12 Thread Hollis, Dan
Hi Jonathan, As you can tell, I'm still getting to grips with CF. Thanks for the explanation and revised example. I can apply the same principle to specifying the depth of our soil temperature measurements, so that's another question answered. > You probably saw John Graybeal's posting The lin

[CF-metadata] New standard name: number_of_days_with_surface_temperature_below_threshold

2014-09-12 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Dan > I found the list on the CF web site here: > http://cfconventions.org/Data/cf-standard-names/docs/area-type-table.html You probably saw John Graybeal's posting that he has put the up-to-date list at http://mmisw.org/ont/cf/areatype. > The only references to area_type in the CF conventi

Re: [CF-metadata] downward_air_velocity

2014-09-12 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Ben > > It imposes a small cost by increasing the number of standard_names that > > have to be defined, but it's very easy to agree such pairs of > > standard_names, > > If I could have a say on this, I would prefer that the standard chooses just > one. Having the possibility of a dual set

[CF-metadata] area types table

2014-09-12 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear John - Forwarded message from John Graybeal - > I created an entry in the MMI ORR for the area types vocabulary: > http://mmisw.org/ont/cf/areatype > > Click on the "Individuals" drop-down at the bottom to see a table of the > individual area names. That's great! Thanks for d

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name: number_of_days_with_surface_temperature_below_threshold

2014-09-12 Thread Hollis, Dan
Hi Jonathan, I found the list on the CF web site here: http://cfconventions.org/Data/cf-standard-names/docs/area-type-table.html However this looks to be much shorter than the list on github so I guess it needs updating. The only references to area_type in the CF conventions doc (v1.6) appear t

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Conventions and netCDF-4 enhanced model

2014-09-12 Thread stephen.pascoe
Hi all, I think the CF convention document urgently needs updating to acknowledge the existence of NetCDF4 features and take a stance on the interpretation of CF within a NetCDF4 file. I see this as a first step before we consider whether to use NetCDF4 features explicitly in the CF model. A

Re: [CF-metadata] downward_air_velocity

2014-09-12 Thread Ben Hetland
Jonathan Gregory wrote on the issue of "downward" and "upward" as separate standard names vs indicated by an attribute: > If it was a separate attribute, it could be omitted, and probably sometimes > would be (even if that was an error). I second that, and I have seen it happen with other attrib