Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread Upendra Dadi
THREDDS won't do this. (I don't mess with THREDDS, so I am just parroting what he said.) If this is correct, then you might want to consider this point when deciding which way to represent coordinates. Grace and peace, Jim On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Upendra Dadi <mailt

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-02 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi Andrew, Either way it should be okay as far as CF compliance is concerned. But the dimensions - latitude, longitude and time are not really required. If it is required to indicate that there is only one station(profile) in the file, there could be a dimension for number of stations instead, w

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 Conformance Requirements/Recommendations

2012-03-29 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi All, I am logging in late into this discussion. I am trying to summarize where the discussion stands as of now. Please correct me if I am wrong with these statements: 1) Everybody agrees that CF should allow a way of storing geophysical variable data even when the geophysical coordinate

Re: [CF-metadata] standard name for sea water ph without

2011-12-12 Thread Upendra Dadi
This might work here since all the scales used have the same units even though they are measuring different things. But I think, more generally, for issues like this, a taxonomy or an ontology on top of standard names might be more useful. Upendra On 12/12/2011 1:35 PM, Jonathan Gregory wro

Re: [CF-metadata] standard name for sea water ph without

2011-12-09 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi Jonathan & John, Thank you for the replies. I understand now. I see that there are complex semantic issues involved here. But the semantic issues should not become operational bottlenecks. I work at a data center where I do come across datasets where ambiguities about what the data repres

Re: [CF-metadata] udunits corresponding to Forel-Ule, milliequivalent

2011-12-09 Thread Upendra Dadi
e- From: cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Emmerson Sent: 08 December 2011 23:58 To: Upendra Dadi Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] udunits corresponding to Forel-Ule, milliequivalent Upendra, > From the perspecti

Re: [CF-metadata] standard name for sea water ph without

2011-12-09 Thread Upendra Dadi
t the values be reported compatibly with others. I am not knowledgeable enough to know the right answer to your two questions, but the above may be useful input. John On Dec 8, 2011, at 08:35, Upendra Dadi wrote: Hi All, The standard name table has an entry called "sea_water_ph_rep

Re: [CF-metadata] udunits corresponding to Forel-Ule, milliequivalent

2011-12-08 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi, I have some data which has "Forel-Ule" for the units used. Is there a udunits corresponding to this? Also, what should I be using for milliequivalent ? Thanks for the help. Upendra ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu http:/

[CF-metadata] udunits corresponding to Forel-Ule, milliequivalent

2011-12-08 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi, I have some data which has "Forel-Ule" for the units used. Is there a udunits corresponding to this? Also, what should I use for milliequivalent ? Thanks for the help. Upendra ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu http://mailman.

[CF-metadata] standard name for sea water ph without

2011-12-08 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi All, The standard name table has an entry called "sea_water_ph_reported_on_total_scale". I have some data which does not mention the scale used for the measurement of ph. Should there be an another entry which does not mention the scale? Most of the standard names I have seen doesn't men

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-satellite] Sharing quality flags amongmultiple variables

2011-11-02 Thread Upendra . Dadi
While the first solution is better in the case when several data variables have the same status flag, the second solution is better when there are several data variables each of which have a different status flag but same flag_values and flag_meanings. Can't we have both the solutions? Upendra

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-satellite] Sharing quality flags among multiple variables

2011-11-01 Thread Upendra Dadi
inversion_checks" ; Of course, flag_definitions is not a CF attribute and the above solution wouldn't work with CF based software. Is there a way around within the ambit of CF other than to repeat the flag definitions? Upendra On 11/1/2011 11:38 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote: D

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-satellite] Sharing quality flags among multiple variables

2011-11-01 Thread Upendra Dadi
Didn't realize that this message is from cf-satellite group. The example that I gave is for in-situ data. But as can be seen, similar issue arises for in-situ data as well. CCing this to CF-METADATA group. Upendra On 11/1/2011 10:47 AM, Upendra Dadi wrote: The same issue occurs with

Re: [CF-metadata] Question on WKT representation of CRS

2011-10-07 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi All, I agree with Eizi, using EPSG code is a good idea. High accuracy conversion from one datum to another is not always a simple mathematical transformation. For such transformations, one has to "know" the datum rather than describe using a small set of parameters. In the US, one example

[CF-metadata] Coordinate reference frame for discrete sampling geometries

2011-09-29 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi All, I am working with CF standard on discrete sampling geometries. In all the examples in the CF document, there is no mention of grid_mapping attribute. As I understand, the information stored within grid_mapping variable has nothing to do with whether the data is gridded or non-gridde

Re: [CF-metadata] CDM calendar date handling

2011-08-18 Thread Upendra Dadi
Thanks John! calendar grammer could be quite useful when representing climatology bounds. I find it difficult to use udunits for representing monthly and seasonal climatology bounds. It would definitely be useful to have it in CF. Upendra On 8/17/2011 7:50 PM, John Caron wrote: In March I p

Re: [CF-metadata] ancillary variables and coordinates

2011-08-16 Thread Upendra Dadi
Also, isn't ancillary variable more a "metadata variable"? I am not clear what it means to be a "data variable" to begin with? Upendra On 8/16/2011 12:12 PM, Jonathan Gregory wrote: Dear Upendra Does the spatio temporal coordinates specified for a variable apply automatically to all the

Re: [CF-metadata] ancillary variables and coordinates

2011-08-16 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi Jonathan, Thanks for you reply. Could you please be more specific on what it means to be applicable? For example, would ancillary variables containing standard errors or flag values too come under this category? These variables wouldn't have much meaning without the original variable. Tha

[CF-metadata] ancillary variables and coordinates

2011-08-16 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi All, Does the spatio temporal coordinates specified for a variable apply automatically to all the ancillary variables as well or do they need to be specified explicitly for each ancillary variable? Or is it left to the software to decide? Is there any recommendation here? Upendra __

Re: [CF-metadata] Is there a convention defining day offsets to use for monthly average time series?

2011-08-11 Thread Upendra Dadi
ll you much does it? cheers, Karl On 8/11/11 9:33 AM, Steve Hankin wrote: On 8/11/2011 9:14 AM, Upendra Dadi wrote: Hi, I have a related question about "bounds" attribute. I often see regularly gridded latitude-longitude data which do not have "bounds" specified wh

Re: [CF-metadata] Is there a convention defining day offsets to use for monthly average time series?

2011-08-11 Thread Upendra Dadi
-time region that is sampled"? If yes, featureType could possibly be used to resolve the ambiguity. Just my two cents. Upendra On 8/11/2011 12:33 PM, Steve Hankin wrote: On 8/11/2011 9:14 AM, Upendra Dadi wrote: Hi, I have a related question about "bounds" attribute. I

Re: [CF-metadata] Is there a convention defining day offsets to use for monthly average time series?

2011-08-11 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi, I have a related question about "bounds" attribute. I often see regularly gridded latitude-longitude data which do not have "bounds" specified when probably they should. But they almost always have regularly spaced latitude and longitude values which are at the middle of each cell. CF c

Re: [CF-metadata] per-variable metadata?

2011-08-04 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi Steve & Nan, Is this allowed in CF? Isn't ancillary_variable meant to be used for per value metadata i.e. metadata for each and every value in the variable it is referring to? If so, shouldn't the ancillary_variable have the same set of dimensions and in the same order as the variable it

Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file

2011-08-04 Thread Upendra Dadi
I think this is good summary. More comments below: On 8/4/2011 5:15 AM, Jon Blower wrote: Hi Jonathan, all, There is lots of important metadata which is optional, such as standard names I think the case of a missing datum is different from the case of a missing standard name. In order to pl

Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file

2011-08-03 Thread Upendra . Dadi
Hi, - Original Message - From: "Bentley, Philip" Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 11:17 am Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file > Hi Jon, > > > I've been following this thread with great interest. For me > > it boils down to t

Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF metadata compliant netCDF file

2011-07-28 Thread Upendra Dadi
or accuracy, this datum should be specified. Upendra On 7/28/2011 11:34 AM, Upendra Dadi wrote: I have heard this argument before- datum need not be provided for datasets which are too imprecise. The usual assumption: "Choosing a wrong datum doesn't change anything. So, lets not spe

Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF metadata compliant netCDF file

2011-07-28 Thread Upendra Dadi
I have heard this argument before- datum need not be provided for datasets which are too imprecise. The usual assumption: "Choosing a wrong datum doesn't change anything. So, lets not specify datum even though I have the datum. Lets leave it for the user to choose the datum, even though I know

[CF-metadata] relationship between CF model and netCDF-classic data model

2011-04-01 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi Folks, I am trying to better understand CF model and its relationship with netCDF-classic data model. Is there even a relationship? If I am creating a netCDF file using CF conventions, does the file have to be using classic data model? If I am using netCDF4 with strings and no other featu

[CF-metadata] CF 1.5 and discrete Sampling Geometries

2010-12-13 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi folks, Can someone please let me know when Discrete Sampling Geometries (https://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/trac/wiki/PointObservationConventions) be part of CF officially ? Is this chapter going to be added to CF eventually? Or is this page defunct? I don't see any mention of CF:featureType in the

[CF-metadata] add_offset for time dimension

2010-09-16 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi, Does CF allow add_offset for time dimension? How about X and Y dimesions? Upendra ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata

[CF-metadata] process for adding new entries into the standard name table

2010-07-16 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hello, I have a couple of variables which do not seem to have appropriate standard names. I want to have standard names for these variables added in the standard name table. The variables are dissolved oxygen, Apparent Oxygen Utilization and Oxygen Saturation( ftp://ftp.nodc.noaa.gov/pub/WOA0

[CF-metadata] units for sea water salinity

2010-07-16 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hello, This is in regard to the units corresponding to the standard name sea_water_salinity. We here at NODC use PSS, which is unitless, for Salinity. PSU is not a good way to represent salinity and shouldn't be used. The units for sea_water_salinity should be changed to PSS in the standard n

Re: [CF-metadata] Use of ACDD metadata: dioes this break the CF convention and what are the implications

2010-07-14 Thread Upendra . Dadi
I agree with Nan. With ACDD it could sometimes be difficult to get feedback on the issues you have. We have had similar issues as those mentioned by Nan. Some attributes are ambiguous. Also, I found some minor conflicts with CF conventions. To give an example, CF requires the grid_mapping attrib

Re: [CF-metadata] Use of ACDD metadata: dioes this break the CF convention and what are the implications

2010-07-14 Thread Upendra . Dadi
Discovery metadata, as Ken pointed out, allows automated population of catalogs. The importance of catalogs has not caught on yet. I see data analysis as consisting of these steps among others:- 1) Search for required data 2) Download the data 3) Analyze the data. NetCDF, CF-conventions and THR

[CF-metadata] handling climatological bounds in CF

2010-04-28 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hello, I am trying to create a CF compliant NetCDF containing climatological statistics. The data consists of monthly means of a certain parameter which is calculated from data which starts on 1773-1-13 and ends on 2001-6-29. How do I represent this information using climatology variable ? The

[CF-metadata] CF convention for point data

2010-03-29 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi, Can anyone in this group please point me to an authoritative website showing CF conventions for point data, specifically trajectories? I have been googling for the right web page, but came across couple of documents which have different attribute names for defining point features. For exa

Re: [CF-metadata] equivalent of TOWGS84 in CF

2010-03-03 Thread Upendra Dadi
ng or semi_major_axis and semi_minor_axis. I think longitude_of_prime_meridian is in there too. The other grid_mapping tags are for projected coordinate systems. -Kyle On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Upendra Dadi <mailto:upendra.d...@noaa.gov>> wrote: Hi, I am new to CF convention

[CF-metadata] equivalent of TOWGS84 in CF

2010-03-03 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi, I am new to CF convention. I am looking at how to incorporate coordinate system information in the netcdf file. Referring to the CF documentation, I found that there are parameters like grid_mapping_name, semi_major_axis, longitude_of_prime_meridian, etc to describe the coordinate system.