Re: [CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] Question about ancillary variables/formula terms variables

2015-12-22 Thread David Hassell
; Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:59:33 -0800 > From: Karl Taylor <taylo...@llnl.gov> > To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] Question about ancillary > variables/formula terms variables > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.

Re: [CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] Question about ancillary variables/formula terms variables

2015-12-22 Thread John Caron
, in > the new year, ticket #98 could be reopened as an enhancement ... > > All the best, > > David > > > Original message from Karl Taylor (01PM 21 Dec 15) > > > Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:59:33 -0800 > > From: Karl Taylor <taylo...@llnl.gov> >

Re: [CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] Question about ancillary variables/formula terms variables

2015-12-22 Thread Karl Taylor
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Re: [CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] Question about ancillary variables/formula terms variables

2015-12-22 Thread Jim Biard
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Re: [CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] Question about ancillary variables/formula terms variables

2015-12-22 Thread Karl Taylor
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Re: [CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] Question about ancillary variables/formula terms variables

2015-12-21 Thread Jim Biard
John, But ancillary variables aren't coordinates, are they? Jim On 12/21/15 1:08 PM, John Caron wrote: i think a crucial property of coordinates is that their dimensions are a subset of the variable's dimensions. otherwise one cant assign the correct coordinate. the length of a char valued

Re: [CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] Question about ancillary variables/formula terms variables

2015-12-21 Thread John Caron
oops, sorry misread the question On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Jim Biard wrote: > John, > > But ancillary variables aren't coordinates, are they? > > Jim > > > On 12/21/15 1:08 PM, John Caron wrote: > > i think a crucial property of coordinates is that their dimensions are

Re: [CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] Question about ancillary variables/formula terms variables

2015-12-21 Thread Karl Taylor
Hi David, I can't think of anyone needing these constructs, although there are cases when both the "parent" and ancillary or formula_terms variable might *both* have a scalar dimension. Karl On 12/21/15 7:41 AM, David Hassell wrote: Hello, I was wondering if anyone has ever had use for an

Re: [CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] Question about ancillary variables/formula terms variables

2015-12-21 Thread John Caron
i think a crucial property of coordinates is that their dimensions are a subset of the variable's dimensions. otherwise one cant assign the correct coordinate. the length of a char valued coordinate is an exception, really char(n) is logically the same as string. while a dim=1 coordinate could

Re: [CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] Question about ancillary variables/formula terms variables

2015-12-21 Thread Jim Biard
David, I've not come across this particular case, but I've had cases where the ancillary data that I wish to store has less dimensions than the corresponding parent field. The Conventions seem to require that the dimensions all match. I'm of the opinion that it should not be so restrictive.

[CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] Question about ancillary variables/formula terms variables

2015-12-21 Thread David Hassell
Hello, I was wondering if anyone has ever had use for an ancillary variable (or data variable pointed to from a formula_terms attribute), having a size 1 dimension which the "parent" field does *not* have. The convention do not say anything about this. For example: dimensions: t = 1;