Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-02-12 Thread alison.pamment
Dear Jeff, Thank you for your standard name proposal for water column height and thanks to all who have contributed comments to this discussion. The consensus view seems to be that sea_floor_depth_below_sea_surface is an acceptable name for this quantity and that it is consistent with the

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-02-12 Thread olivier lauret
, Olivier. -Message d'origine- De : cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] De la part de alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk Envoyé : vendredi 12 février 2010 12:15 À : cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Objet : Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-02-08 Thread Nan Galbraith
-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height Sea_floor_depth_below_sea_surface seems very appropriate when the water depth is measured from the surface. Some communities need to distinguish this measurement from one made from the sea floor. Shipboard water depth measurements in the open

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-02-05 Thread Lowry, Roy K
...@whoi.edu] Sent: 04 February 2010 17:29 To: Jonathan Gregory Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; Mike Garcia Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height Sea_floor_depth_below_sea_surface seems very appropriate when the water depth is measured from the surface. Some communities

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-02-04 Thread Nan Galbraith
Sea_floor_depth_below_sea_surface seems very appropriate when the water depth is measured from the surface. Some communities need to distinguish this measurement from one made from the sea floor. Shipboard water depth measurements in the open ocean generally ignore tides and other variations in

[CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-02-02 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Jeff and Roy I agree, it is arbitrary whether it is called sea_floor_depth_below_sea_surface or sea_surface_height_above_sea_floor and I agree with Roy that consistency with existing names would suggest the former. It's interesting that this kind of ambiguity hasn't arisen before. What you

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-02-02 Thread John Graybeal
Perhaps the infamous aliases would be an appropriate technique? I seem to recall that aliases are considered OK in some cases in CF, or am I remembering that incorrectly? I like the idea of 'distance_between_sea_floor_and_sea_surface' myself, rather than 'thickness_of_ocean' (though the

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-02-02 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear John Yes, good suggestion, we could adopt a new pattern vertical_distance_between_X and_Y for cases where thickness sounds peculiar. Aliases are really intended for cases where we make mistakes or change our minds, rather than to provide synonyms deliberately. We've preferred to force

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-02-02 Thread Lowry, Roy K
Graybeal Cc: CF Metadata List Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height Dear John Yes, good suggestion, we could adopt a new pattern vertical_distance_between_X and_Y for cases where thickness sounds peculiar. Aliases are really intended for cases where we make

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-29 Thread Bryan Lawrence
In general, when CF has a measured observable, the name makes no statement about whether the variable has been measured instantaneously, or for 1 hour, or for one month. It's time-neutral. ... because you can use other cf attributes to say things about time averaging (

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-28 Thread Lowry, Roy K
into a wall. Cheers, Roy. -Original Message- From: Jeff deLaBeaujardiere [mailto:jeff.delabeaujardi...@noaa.gov] Sent: 28 January 2010 14:06 To: Lowry, Roy K Cc: John Graybeal; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; Mike Garcia Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height I

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-28 Thread olivier lauret
...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] De la part de Lowry, Roy K Envoyé : jeudi 28 janvier 2010 16:12 À : Jeff deLaBeaujardiere Cc : John Graybeal; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; Mike Garcia Objet : Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height Hi Jeff, My motives for 'looking

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-27 Thread Lowry, Roy K
] seeking CF name for total water column height Hello- I am a new subscriber. We are hoping to adopt CF names wherever possible in the context of the Integrated Ocean Observing System (IOOS) Sensor Observation Services (SOS). Not all phenomena we measure have immediately apparent CF names

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-27 Thread olivier lauret
] De la part de Lowry, Roy K Envoyé : mercredi 27 janvier 2010 09:58 À : Jeff deLaBeaujardiere; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Cc : Mike Garcia Objet : Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height Dear All, I think a new Standard Name 'sea_floor_depth_below_sea_surface' is what's

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-27 Thread John Graybeal
...@cgd.ucar.edu ] On Behalf Of Jeff deLaBeaujardiere Sent: 26 January 2010 22:22 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Cc: Mike Garcia Subject: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height Hello- I am a new subscriber. We are hoping to adopt CF names wherever possible in the context

Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-27 Thread John Graybeal
. Cheers, Roy. From: John Graybeal [jbgrayb...@mindspring.com] Sent: 27 January 2010 16:41 To: Lowry, Roy K Cc: Jeff deLaBeaujardiere; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; Mike Garcia Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height Any

[CF-metadata] seeking CF name for total water column height

2010-01-26 Thread Jeff deLaBeaujardiere
Hello- I am a new subscriber. We are hoping to adopt CF names wherever possible in the context of the Integrated Ocean Observing System (IOOS) Sensor Observation Services (SOS). Not all phenomena we measure have immediately apparent CF names, however. We are using this URL as a reference: