"FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Claremont, Timothy
The "free" BD vs "" CF comes down to politics in our organization. It was a struggle to get my employer to warm up to CF 4.5. I literally had to formally donate my copy, make an effective application, then beg for forgiveness instead of asking for permission. Slowly bu

RE: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Jim Davis
ED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: "FREE" BD vs. "" CF The "free" BD vs "" CF comes down to politics in our organization. It was a struggle to get my employer to warm up to CF 4.5. I literally had to formally donate my

Re: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Apr 21, 2004, at 7:48 AM, Jim Davis wrote: > This isn't all that odd. in my case the problem is similar, but comes > from >  another end.  My (very large) company won't consider either product > because >  their both too cheap - and so (goes the management opinion) are not > fit for >  enter

RE: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Vince Bonfanti
day, April 21, 2004 10:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: "FREE" BD vs. "" CF The "free" BD vs "" CF comes down to politics in our organization. It was a struggle to get my employer to warm up to CF 4.5. I literally had to formally donate my copy, make an

RE: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Vince Bonfanti
tions, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: "FREE" BD vs. "" CF This isn't all that odd. in my case the problem is similar, but come

Re: FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Johnny Le
sage- >From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:48 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: RE: "FREE" BD vs. "" CF > > >This isn't all that odd. in my case the problem is similar, but comes from >another end.  My

Re: FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Matt Liotta
>  > >  >-Original Message- >  >From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >  >Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:48 AM >  >To: CF-Talk >  >Subject: RE: "FREE" BD vs. "" CF >  > >  > >  >This isn't all that odd

RE: FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Vince Bonfanti
esday, April 21, 2004 2:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: FREE" BD vs. "" CF Is BD really free?  From what I know, only the developer versio is free. You can't use it for production.  If you know of a free version for production, please let me know. Thanks. Johnny >Tha

RE: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Jim Davis
AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: "FREE" BD vs. "" CF On Apr 21, 2004, at 7:48 AM, Jim Davis wrote: > This isn't all that odd. in my case the problem is similar, but comes > from >  another end.  My (very large) company won't consider either product > beca

RE: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Paul Kenney
bucks.  You pay them money so that you can pay them more money. Paul Kenney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 916-212-4359 > -Original Message- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:48 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: "FREE" BD vs. &qu

RE: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Jim Davis
told that cost cutting is a primary concern.  ;^) Jim Davis   _   From: Paul Kenney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 9:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: "FREE" BD vs. "" CF And how much did that assessment cost?  I'm sure they blew right

RE: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Nathan C. Smith
When the only tool you have is a hammer you tend to see the problem as a nail. -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: "FREE" BD vs. "" CF Actually we use CICS on our mainframe.

RE: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-21 Thread Paul Kenney
Expecially if that's a $100 hammer. Paul Kenney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 916-212-4359 > -Original Message- > From: Nathan C. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:24 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: "FREE" BD vs. "" CF

RE: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-22 Thread Mark W. Breneman
Mark W. Breneman -Cold Fusion Developer -Network Administrator   Vivid Media   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   www.vividmedia.com   608.270.9770   _   From: Paul Kenney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 9:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: "FREE" BD vs. "" CF

Re: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-22 Thread Dick Applebaum
;  Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:20 AM >  To: CF-Talk >  Subject: Re: "FREE" BD vs. "" CF > >  On Apr 21, 2004, at 7:48 AM, Jim Davis wrote: > >  > This isn't all that odd. in my case the problem is similar, but > comes >  > fr

RE: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

2004-04-22 Thread Jim Davis
but rather this "GMI" layer. Jim Davis   _   From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: "FREE" BD vs. "" CF On Apr 21, 2004, at 5:48 PM, Jim Davis wrote: > Actually we use CICS on our