Re: [OT] transparent source control

2005-09-09 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
On 9/8/05, Anthony Prato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am pretty set on subversion already, my problem's been getting the developers to break their bad habits. The process here seems to be someone talks about a bug or something they don't like. A programmer jumps on it with very little planning

[OT] transparent source control

2005-09-08 Thread Anthony Prato
I was hoping to hear what the list thinks on an issue I have. I'm trying to make a number of changes at the place I've been working for a few months. The small group of programmers has a disorganized development process. I'm trying to work in some standard source control but until that point I

Re: [OT] transparent source control

2005-09-08 Thread Robert Munn
I don't think you would necessarily want that, even if you could have it. I save a file to disk many more times than I check it out and check it in. With automatic check-in on save, you could end up with hundreds of versions of a file very quickly. IMHO you are better off going straight to

Re: [OT] transparent source control

2005-09-08 Thread Barney Boisvert
You can set up Subversion with Apache and access it over webDAV, which is really slick. Best of all, you can use both Subversion clients (that understand the SVN extensions to webDAV), and normal webDAV clients. For normal clients, Subversion will just do a commit for any files saved to the

Re: [OT] transparent source control

2005-09-08 Thread Anthony Prato
I am pretty set on subversion already, my problem's been getting the developers to break their bad habits. The process here seems to be someone talks about a bug or something they don't like. A programmer jumps on it with very little planning and starts coding. They think it works, through it into

Re: [OT] transparent source control

2005-09-08 Thread Tanguy Rademakers
You could hack a solution together based on batch files / shell scripts and the at / cron commands for scheduling. What you will gain is a visibility into what changed and when, but not why or by who. It's a matter of opinion, but i'd say that glass is very much half full. /t I was hoping to

Re: [OT] transparent source control

2005-09-08 Thread Douglas Knudsen
sounds familiar, where do you work? hehe! Yeah, after using CVS on my own ( well I cajoled maybe 2 others after a bit) within a team of non-cvs users for the past two years I finanlly just said everyone has to use it. Being the production owner gave me some leverage. Use CVS or your code does

Re: [OT] transparent source control

2005-09-08 Thread Peter Farrell
I whole heartedly go with Subversion and just force people to use it. Trust me - people will use it if you catch them put in buggy untested code into production. Offer a $100 gift certificate for the person with the lease amount of demerit points after two months (use a public whiteboard or