From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:46 AM
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> If I understand correctly, a wildcard setup as you describe
> would require a dedicated IP for that particular domain, right?
Yo
> If I understand correctly, a wildcard setup as you describe
> would require a dedicated IP for that particular domain, right?
You could have two A records pointing to the same IP address, although that
will break reverse lookups.
> One other thing... when you describe your method of setting
>
> Neil you regularly spout this tripe. Many of us in the
> FarCry community use FarCry for *very* large and complex
> installations every day. We often wonder how it is we ever
> managed with such a simplistic application framework.
>
> The proof is in the pudding -- when you build enterprise
etup up a new site *using* IIS... you said you do that
without fooling with IIS... ???
Thanks for the advice...
Rick
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From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:17 PM
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We do exaclty this for a customer with "affiliates".
They actually share a single codebase. When a web request comes in we check
out the first part of the domain string which
ust what I was thinking... thanks for the confirmation!
Rick
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From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 3:24 PM
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Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Casey Dougall wrote:
>
> Be careful of wildcard settings on your sites. Yeah it's cool but Search
> Engins do not like it at all. The problem
les, since they are shared with all users in an
app,
and to use session variables, instead.
Sound good?
Rick
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From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the term "DNS wildcard"... can you explain what
that is in your scen
domain.com to your host header list on
the site.
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From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 11:45 AM
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> Another approach is to use a wildcard entry with a dedicate
subdomains for each client... correct?
Rick
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From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 2:07 PM
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> The next question that comes to mind is how to structure
> > Now of course if you use some #CGI.SERVER_NAME# lookups first, then set
> the
> > content of index.cfm to match the domain in question you could be ok.
>
> Right, and I think that's what he's talking about doing.
Casey, Rick R.: Yes, that is what I meant.
Rick F.: domain1.thedomain.com, do
Casey Dougall wrote:
>
> Be careful of wildcard settings on your sites. Yeah it's cool but Search
> Engins do not like it at all. The problem stems from Google, yahoo etc
> thinking there are more than one website with the exact same content. This
> of course means when someone goes to domain1.the
On 12/2/06, Michael E. Carluen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The next question that comes to mind is how to structure the
> > domains / subdomains for the CMS's.
>
> Rick, How about using DNS wildcard? Lots of app-as-a-service sites
> already
> use it. You can register a single generic sounding
t's company name on the URL
like http:// Stickfordhomes.realtoroffice.net . This way, you do not need to
manage any subdomains.
Michael
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> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:16 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Su
...
Rick
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From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:51 PM
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You could also just go with "admin.theirdomain.com" or
"www.theirdomain.com/admin"
You could also just go with "admin.theirdomain.com" or
"www.theirdomain.com/admin" (which is what I do). Or just put an admin
link on the front page =) I have a "community" web site software that I
built back in 2001 where the authentication setup is the same for all
users, you log into the h
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Subject: RE: Advice needed on how to proceed with app...
You can pretty easily make "www.rea.white Work. I do this routinely.
If I add a subdomain intended for run of the mill users I also add a "www.
Entry for it in DNS and the host header as well... Another approac
them.
So, I could do that... do you think that is the best solution?
Rick
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From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 11:53 AM
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Rick Faircloth wrote:
> and send the
Mark A Kruger wrote:
> You can pretty easily make "www.rea.white Work. I do this routinely.
> If I add a subdomain intended for run of the mill users I also add a "www.
> Entry for it in DNS and the host header as well... Another approach is to
> use a wildcard entry with a dedicated IP.
I
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From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 10:16 AM
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Now, after our little Farcry sidebar (which I have no plans to use, cause I
like to build my own, even while simpler,
Rick Faircloth wrote:
> and send them all to that for content management. I found that using
> subdomains
> like this confuses many clients who think that www has to be in there
> somewhere,
> and they end up trying to go to www.REA.WhiteStoneMedia.com, which, of
> course,
> doesn't work and leads
Now, after our little Farcry sidebar (which I have no plans to use, cause
I like to build my own, even while simpler, at least I understand it and can
troubleshoot it much easier)... back to my original question, or at least
a continuation thereof...
If I decide to take this approach:
- Build Cus
02 15:07:30 2006
Subject: RE: Advice needed on how to proceed with app...
I'd be interested in hearing a short list of those features... Let's get
them added - at least as plugins :)
-mark
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From: Geoff Bowers
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Sent: Sat Dec 02 05:16:57 2006
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> Munson, Jacob wrote:
> > Sounds like a go
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From: Rick Faircloth
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sat Dec 02 02:13:12 2006
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> Rick, the only thing I'm wondering is, why create a separate database for
> each client's site data. That seems to add a layer of
s
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From: Geoff Bowers
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Sent: Sat Dec 02 05:16:57 2006
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> Munson, Jacob wrote:
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From: Geoff Bowers
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Sent: Sat Dec 02 05:16:57 2006
Subject: Re: Advice needed on how to proceed with app...
> Munson, Jacob wrote:
> > Sounds like a good plan to me. The o
> Munson, Jacob wrote:
> > Sounds like a good plan to me. The only suggestion I'd make is to look
> > at something like Farcry for your CMS parts.
>
> Farcry is an enterprise CMS. Your average real estate agent will *NOT*
> be able to use it.
It's fortunate that you can rewrite the UI for every
umber of sites... but it certainly would
be easier on me to create the db just once... probably go that route...
Thanks for the feedback, Josh.
Rick
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From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:24 PM
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Some good points, Rick...
Rick
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From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Josh Nathanson wrote:
> Rick, the only thing I'm wondering is, why create a
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Munson, Jacob wrote:
> Sounds like a good plan to me. The only suggestion I'd make is to look
> at something like Farcry for your CMS parts.
Farcry is an enterprise CMS.
Munson, Jacob wrote:
>
> Does Enterprise mean it won't work for average users? I mean one of the
> main purposes of CMS is to make things easy for non technical users.
> I've heard that the latest versions of Farcry are a lot more user
> friendly than it use to be.
It would have to be =)
No, en
> It's a lot more powerful than your run of the mill php CMS
> systems that
> are open source, full commercial support is available for it,
> and it's
> got pretty much all the features you'd want an enterprise
> class CMS to
> have, especially from the level of workflows, approvals, and such
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From: Rick Root
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Sent: Fri Dec 01 23:12:37 2006
Subject: Re: Advice needed on how to proceed with app...
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
> It is a good
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
> It is a good CMS that is for sure, but I certainly wouldn't class it as
> Enterprise.
Why not?
It's a lot more powerful than your run of the mill php CMS systems that
are open source, full commercial support is available for it, and it's
got pretty much all th
Josh Nathanson wrote:
> Rick, the only thing I'm wondering is, why create a separate database for
> each client's site data. That seems to add a layer of complication that
> might not be needed.
Security, Backup/restore, code complexity, site portability.
Multiple commercial clients on multi
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From: Rick Root
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Fri Dec 01 23:00:08 2006
Subject: Re: Advice needed on how to proceed with app...
Munson, Jacob wrote:
> Sounds like a good plan to me. The only suggestion I'd make is to look
> at something like Farcry for your CMS parts.
Munson, Jacob wrote:
> Sounds like a good plan to me. The only suggestion I'd make is to look
> at something like Farcry for your CMS parts.
Farcry is an enterprise CMS. Your average real estate agent will *NOT*
be able to use it.
Rick
~~~
o maintain than
creating separate databases for each client.
-- Josh
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From: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk"
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 1:51 PM
Subject: Advice needed on how to proceed with app...
> Ok. so for ab
> I had thought about upgrading awhile back, but then the upgrade price
> from 4.5 to 7 jumped from about $600 to $1300 and that put a halt to
> the upgrade for the moment.
>
> Especially with CF 8 due out next year, I can't see spending $1300 now
> and another $600 next year to get into CF 8...
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Subject: RE: Advice needed on how to proceed with app...
Sounds like a good plan to me. The only suggestion I'd make is to look
at something like Farcry for your CMS parts. Building a feature rich
CMS from the ground up will take a lot of work. I'm lazy at times,
which is why I lik
Sounds like a good plan to me. The only suggestion I'd make is to look
at something like Farcry for your CMS parts. Building a feature rich
CMS from the ground up will take a lot of work. I'm lazy at times,
which is why I like to leverage the experience of other projects,
especially open source,
Ok. so for about 10 years now, I've been making a living
building websites, static and dynamic, as well as web apps.
I've built them one at a time, always going back to the drawing
board to recreate every page, form, and query from scratch.
Mostly because I knew that once I started reusing code, i
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