Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2008-04-07 Thread Mike Kear
G'day James, I'm replying to you separately off-list because my reply will contain some private records (i.e. my config file for apache) that dont belong on this list. But for everyone else, I followed the steps explained in this thread, which was easy (for CF7 along with CF8 - not sure if it als

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2008-04-07 Thread James Rojas
Mike, I am now at the same point. I have tried to follow this thread, but I know code, not server configuration. I was wondering if you could email me (jamesbrojas at cox.net) the steps you took to get multiple versions of ColdFusion running on the same machine? Environment: Windows XP

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-16 Thread Matthew Williams
> Thanks for all your perseverance, and your help in getting me up and > going with this. I definitely wouldnt have worked it out myself but > I'm sure you will be pleased, or maybe relieved, to konw i have it > sussed out now and I'm a very happy camper. > > Thanks Hey, I'm just glad that, while

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-16 Thread Mike Kear
Matthew, I followed your blog entry and I was surprised. It turned out to be ridiculously simple and I now have two sites running on CF8 on my machine, and the rest still on CF7 - i just click on my bookmark and the [dev copy ] site opens using the correct version of Coldfusion. Transparently a

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Matthew Williams
> As to the start to finish instructions, I'm working on a blog post on > this right now. Just going to be later tonight or tomorrow before I > finish it up. I put together a soup to nuts description of this. It can be found http://www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/12/12/Install-ColdFu

RE: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Dave Watts
> Now here's a new puzzle. When i run a dump of the server > variables on a page, it definitely says CF server version 7. > And just to be sure, a page with a > Yet when i look at the services running, the CF7 services are > stopped. Huh?? > > Here's the status of some of the items in the

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Mike Kear
Dave Watts, Matthew WIlliams, I cant tell you how grateful I am that you're so patient and helpful. I understand Mattew's instructions, I think, so I'm going to get back onto it now, following those, now i've had a few hours sleep. There's only one niggling concern - i dont have version 22, i h

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Mike Kear
Now here's a new puzzle. When i run a dump of the server variables on a page, it definitely says CF server version 7. And just to be sure, a page with a http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month

RE: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Dave Watts
> There's only one niggling concern - i dont have version 22, i > have version 20. i.e. my http:conf file says > > LoadModule jrun_module "C:/JRun4/lib/wsconfig/2/mod_jrun20.so" > > Is this a problem? No, it shouldn't be. > How do you know what port the bootstrap is on? or do you just > make

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Matthew Williams
As to the start to finish instructions, I'm working on a blog post on this right now. Just going to be later tonight or tomorrow before I finish it up. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~| AdobeĀ® Cold

RE: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Dave Watts
> For example, "...installed CF7 as an EAR within a new JRun > instance.." might as well be Russian i'm afraid. I havent installed > CF7 at all since a month after it was released. So it's installed as > whatever it was when i did that, over a year ago. I thought > about removing it and then ren

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Matthew Williams
One of the requirements to make this work in apache is to use the {VirtualHost} tags. You would define a specific CF instance to use for each VH. Try making a copy of your current httpd.conf file and pointing the Web Config Tool at it instead of the live version. You would then remove the JRun

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Matthew Williams
I have now corrected that oversight with my last post ;). Hope it helps. Ya know... these would all make excellent blog posts! Not that many people read my blog, but it'd still make nice posts. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~~

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks, I think. The trouble for me is whenever i come close to this sort of thing, people use terms i haven't any understanding of. For example, "...installed CF7 as an EAR within a new JRun instance.." might as well be Russian i'm afraid. I havent installed CF7 at all since a month after it

RE: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Dave Watts
> Thanks Dave. Do you ever get any work done? You spend a LOT of time > here helping people out - and it's appreciated, I can assure you! You're welcome, of course! And as a CF instructor, this is actually part of my work. > I have installed using the multi server options. I can run both > admini

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks Dave. Do you ever get any work done? You spend a LOT of time here helping people out - and it's appreciated, I can assure you! I have installed using the multi server options. I can run both administrators and see the settings for both CF7 and CF8, so i know the servers themselves are

RE: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Dave Watts
> That means (correct my if i'm wrong) that i have ot change those > IfModule mod_jrun22.c settings in the Apache config. To the best of my knowledge, Apache won't let you use two different mod_jrun connector files. IIS will let you use different connectors for different virtual servers, but that

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-12 Thread Mike Kear
Matthew, that is a good description of what I need to do. I have now got CF8 installed and running, but only by calling http://localhost:8501/ That's ok but it's not using Apache, and that location is only pointing to the locatio nof hte docs and admin. I need to be able to access web sites usi

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-11 Thread Matthew Williams
>How do you switch between them?I.e. how does your system determine >that page a has to be processed by CF8 and page b by CF7? Pretty simple, using apache. Assuming you've installed in multi-server mode, you would run the Web Server Configuration tool (found in the Macromedia programs folde

RE: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-11 Thread Dave Watts
> Thanks Russ. The machine in questoin is my development > laptop which has a max 2GB Ram, but i was persuaded when i > bought it to go with 1GB. SILLY MOVE!! Because of the > configuration of he chips the only way to upgrade RAM is > to buy a whole 2GB in 2 chips and throw the 2x500MB chips

RE: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-11 Thread Dave Watts
> Excellent Mike. So to save on RAM (since that's my major > issue with this machine) i can write a little batch file in > dos (remember DOS anyone?) to net stop the version i'm finished > with and net start the version i want to switch to. Sounds pretty > simple. that way there's only one vers

RE: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-11 Thread Dave Watts
> Will setting up VMs make that situation worse? (yes i know > the answer is to get more RAM, but my Chairman of Finance > reckons fixing the brakes on the car and new curtains in the > living room take priority.) VMs require significantly more RAM, as each contains its own OS. > When you swi

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-11 Thread Gualtiero Sappa
I already read this blog entry but my performance issues are only on a server with both CF7 and CF8 running... on servers with only CF8 it works fine! So I don't know if the problem is that we have both CF7 and CF8 running or not (the server is a virtual machine with few RAM) Gualtiero Dawson,

RE: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-11 Thread Dawson, Michael
>I have a QA server configured in this way and I encountered some performance issues on >CF8, but I don't know if this is due to the simultaneous installation of CF7 and CF8. Read this about the CF8 performance issues. http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/Java_6_and_ColdFu sion_

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-11 Thread Gualtiero Sappa
Mike Kear ha scritto: > Excellent Mike. So to save on RAM (since that's my major issue with > this machine) i can write a little batch file in dos (remember DOS > anyone?) to net stop the version i'm finished with and net start the > version i want to switch to.Sounds pretty simple. that way

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-10 Thread James Holmes
Seriously dude, I can get 1GB of Legend lifetime warranty notebook memory for AUD $30. In fact, I'm about to do this for myself (memory is so cheap I don't know why my desktop machine doesn't have 4GB). On Dec 11, 2007 4:09 PM, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So to save on RAM (since that's

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Kear
Excellent Mike. So to save on RAM (since that's my major issue with this machine) i can write a little batch file in dos (remember DOS anyone?) to net stop the version i'm finished with and net start the version i want to switch to.Sounds pretty simple. that way there's only one version of C

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Chabot
I would back up or rename your CFIDE directory before any install if you are using a shared Apache Web server instead of the built-in Web server (the port 8500 one). Other than this CFIDE folder, CF8 would naturally go into its own folder when installing. The default folder name is "ColdFusion8." T

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-10 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Sorry, I was assuming that you were doing this on a live server. My local machine here uses the internal server with CF7 on port 8500 and CF8 on port 8501. My comic machine (right next to the dev machine) has CF8 mapped into the webserver and when I need to use CF 7 I go and change the dll that's b

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-10 Thread Mark Mandel
I also tend to run Ubuntu Server on my VMs for development, which are * considerably* lighter weight than a full blown copy of windows. (Mind you, I also run a 2.16 Cor 2 duo machine, with 2GB of ram... so...take a grain of salt) Mark On Dec 11, 2007 4:52 PM, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks Russ. The machine in questoin is my development laptop which has a max 2GB Ram, but i was persuaded when i bought it to go with 1GB. SILLY MOVE!!Because of the configuration of he chips the only way to upgrade RAM is to buy a whole 2GB in 2 chips and throw the 2x500MB chips away. Than

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Kear
Excellent news, Michael.that answers the first concern i had. How do you switch between them?I.e. how does your system determine that page a has to be processed by CF8 and page b by CF7? Cheers Mike Kear On Dec 11, 2007 4:38 PM, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have both

RE: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-10 Thread Russ
uss > -Original Message- > From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:35 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine? > > This machine is pretty skimpy on the RAM. I thought 1GB would b

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-10 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I have both CF7 and CF8 on the same live machine with no problems at all. I'm using IIS but I'm assuming that Apache will be the same setup. On Dec 11, 2007 12:21 AM, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am at the point where about half my client base is now on CF8, and i > need to upgrade my

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Kear
This machine is pretty skimpy on the RAM. I thought 1GB would be plenty when i bought it, but i found when i had CF, SQLServer, Apache, Anti Virus, Outlook, Dreamweaver, and a couple of browsers etc all going at once it slowed down to a crawl. Will setting up VMs make that situation worse? (yes

Re: Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-10 Thread Mark Mandel
Why not just setup 2 VMs? one with CF7 and one with CF8? You can even have them share the same codebase with shared folders. Mark On Dec 11, 2007 4:21 PM, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am at the point where about half my client base is now on CF8, and i > need to upgrade my developmen

Any 'gotchas' with two versions of CF on one machine?

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Kear
I am at the point where about half my client base is now on CF8, and i need to upgrade my development PC. I still have a significant base using CF7 though, so I need to stay in touch with that version. Are there any 'gotchas' with having CF7 and CF8 present on the same machine?I kind of had t