Rich,
Thanks for the kick-ass reply. Somehow it got buried beneath the piles of
email, and I just now saw it; sorry about that. Your post is most
informative, and very helpful.
As of a couple of days ago, being 6+ weeks behind on a project that I was
going to run on my new framework has made
Matt,
Glad I could help. Good luck on your project and the OO adventure!
Rich Kroll
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Firstly, I applaud your work in attempting to truly understand how OO
works and how to apply it to CF. I just wanted to chime in and give you
a few things to think about when you are trying to understand / build an
MVC app.
I looked at the problem of building an MVC application and looked to
31 00:23:46 2006
Subject: Re: CF and OOP - Controller
Jon,
Thanks for the FAQU tip; it sounds like I definitely need to read the
article(s). I keep meaning to subscribe, but I keep forgetting to.
Hopefully I'll remember to do so when the next check comes in (before it's
all spent!) :-)
You've
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From: Matt Quackenbush
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Sent: Sun Dec 31 00:23:46 2006
Subject: Re: CF and OOP - Controller
Jon,
Thanks for the FAQU tip; it sounds like I
Hmmm... I tried to do that, but when I submit the form, it gives me only a
blank page (with just the masthead and sidebar). I tried on 4 different
browsers, and got the same result. :-(
On 12/31/06, Dan Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just picked up a single pdf download for 6.95. This way I
I do not come from a programming background. I, like many in the 90s,
picked up CF (v. 4) because of its tag-based ease of use. I was pretty damn
good with HTML, and said: cool! tags! I can learn this and not pay
someone else to do it for me.
Within the last 12 months or so I've been
Matt,
I'm not going to claim to be an OO guru. If you haven't yet, I
highly suggest picking up the Fall issue of the Fusion Authority
Quarterly Update, which is basically all OOP stuff. I had so many ah-
ha's going through that cover to cover that I literally felt
embarrassed at times
Well Matt, I think you are stepping outside the realm of Coldfusion when you
are talking about objects and controllers. Sure CF is going a little more
towards the OO methods of programming, but in a very lose sorta fashion.
your CFC is in most ways a controller in that you do not write any display
Jon,
Thanks for the FAQU tip; it sounds like I definitely need to read the
article(s). I keep meaning to subscribe, but I keep forgetting to.
Hopefully I'll remember to do so when the next check comes in (before it's
all spent!) :-)
You've definitely helped clear the muck a bit. I'm pretty
Doug,
I understand your point that CF is not a true OO language, but since it is
now possible to quickly and efficiently apply so many great OO principles to
CF, I want to learn every bit of it that I can as it relates specifically to
CF. There are three main reasons for that:
1) from a
Question # 1: Am I correctly understanding what a 'controller' is? As I
understand it, in an MVC environment, the controller is what handles all
the
various tasks required prior to rendering the requested page.
I think of the controller as the orchestrator, the one who examines the
context,
On 12/30/06, Dave Merrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think of the controller as the orchestrator, the one who examines the
context, calls the models needed to get any data required, then passes
that to
the view for rendering. He's the traffic cop, kinda.
Precisely. That's a much better way
If you are building a framework, your framework core should be the one
to convert the form and url scope into a struct within the framework's
datastore object. At that point, you can pass the datastore into each
controller upon instantiation. Since the object will be passed by
reference, it
Nic,
Thank you for that. I actually just finished reading a couple of articles
on your blog that I thought cleared that up for me, and your reply here
verified that your articles actually DID get thru my thick skull. :-)
Matt
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