Re: RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread ksuh
this. Some people say it's great, other people are still on the fence (and they work on the same kind of apps, I should mention). - Original Message - From: "Cantrell, Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:37 pm Subject: RE: CF6 &

Re: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens
rs by turning it into a server-side scripting technology. Now > EVERYONE is writing their "enterprise-level" systems on the same technology > that was used to design those slow, crummy "Water Reflection" applets from > the mid 90's. Is this a good thing?

RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Cantrell, Adam
sign those slow, crummy "Water Reflection" applets from the mid 90's. Is this a good thing? > -Original Message- > From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:32 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance

RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Zac Belado
> So was the RedHat support issue, Not to the best of my knowledge. Red Hat was/is supported for CF primarily becasue Red Hat sells and provides support for their OS products. __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII

RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Dave Watts
> I find this rather disappointing, because other than some > performance gains, it doesn't appear that CF will be changing > much (so much for sales to those who have already made > significant J2EE investments across the enterprise). Though > from MM's point of view, it makes perfect sense (e

Re: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Greg Alton
CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:32 PM Subject: Re: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) > I would agree, and would hate to see many of those features go away. > However, many of the marketing claims I've heard is that you ca

Re: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens
;Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) > > > In other words, they make it sound as if I can take my > > > class file

RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Dave Watts
> (If memory serves me correct, can't CF6 run by itself? I > hope so. Otherwise the cost of CF6 goes way up.) My understanding is that there will be different "flavors" of Neo: a standalone version which provides a cut-down version of JRun, a version for WebLogic, a version for WebSphere, and po

Re: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) > > Then why is there an Apache module? > > User demand? Besides, that was produced by Allaire not M

Neo (was: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com))

2002-01-30 Thread Duane Boudreau
would consider using even a beta version of Neo if the NEO release was in the foreseeable future. Duane -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia

RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Dave Watts
> > In other words, they make it sound as if I can take my > > class files generated on a Win32 box and move them anywhere > > I want - even on a machine without CF. > > If the CF code is compiled to Java byte-code, this would > certainly be possible. Well, not really, I don't think. There wil

RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Zac Belado
> Then why is there an Apache module? User demand? Besides, that was produced by Allaire not Macromedia. __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Mont

Re: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Kevin Miller
If the CF code is compiled to Java byte-code, this would certainly be possible. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/02 09:32AM >>> In other words, they make it sound as if I can take my class files generated on a Win32 box and move them anywhere I want - even on a machine without CF. ___

RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Dave Watts
> However, many of the marketing claims I've heard is that you > can put the generated class files on any "supported" J2EE > engine and they'll run. In other words, they make it sound > as if I can take my class files generated on a Win32 box > and move them anywhere I want - even on a machine

Re: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens
Then why is there an Apache module? - Original Message - From: "Zac Belado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) >

Re: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens
ival) - Original Message - From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:56 AM Subject: RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) > > If it's true J2EE, it should be

RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Zac Belado
> Of course, you'll notice that they in > the initial public Neo info that they are only supporting a limited set of > J2EE engines (interestingly enough, all of them are commercial products - > even though there are a number of open-source J2EE products that are fully > compliant). Not "interest

RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
ginal Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 8:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) > If it's true J2EE, it should be portable across all J2EE > platforms. Of course, you'll notice

RE: CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Dave Watts
> If it's true J2EE, it should be portable across all J2EE > platforms. Of course, you'll notice that they in the initial > public Neo info that they are only supporting a limited set of > J2EE engines (interestingly enough, all of them are commercial > products - even though there are a number

CF6 & true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens
Of course they aren't. However, I don't MS should be the standard that MM uses to measure themselves against. If it's true J2EE, it should be portable across all J2EE platforms. Of course, you'll notice that they in the initial public Neo info that they are only supporting a limited set of J2EE