RE: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-03 Thread Dave Watts
> > The CFM file is always executed within the context of > > the CF server, no matter what. Of course, you should > > limit the privileges of the account in which CF runs > > to the extent possible. > > > Which normally is the Localsystem account, which will > grant CFMX all access. Running CFM

Re: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-03 Thread Jesse Houwing
> > >>Does anyone know how this exploit is exploited? >> >> > >No, and I can't replicate it with my current configuration - web server >authentication seems to work fine for me. As I posted in another message, I >suspect it has to do with the JRun connector configuration; I'm using the >ISAPI

Re: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-03 Thread Jesse Houwing
Jochem van Dieten wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>Well, for an administrative tools directory, off the root of a site. If the >>ACL's deny access to the IUSR account, any unauthenticated user is prompted >>to enter their username/password to access the cfm files within that >>directory

Re: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-03 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Dave Watts wrote: >> It is my understanding that unless you switch on "Check >> that file exists" nobody is asked for their u/p. > > This is not necessarily the case. I've been successfully using web server > authentication (both Basic and Windows Authentication) with IIS 5 and CFMX. > > I suspe

RE: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-02 Thread Dave Watts
> Yikes - that would mean we would have to recode basically > every app we have ever made that has and web accessible > admin directory. Do you think it would be safe to use a > cold fusion scripted login routine instead of ACL's and > WIndows Authentication. Why couldn't you just enable the "

RE: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-02 Thread Dave Watts
> It is my understanding that unless you switch on "Check > that file exists" nobody is asked for their u/p. This is not necessarily the case. I've been successfully using web server authentication (both Basic and Windows Authentication) with IIS 5 and CFMX. I suspect that it has to do with the

Re: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-02 Thread brook
I don't see that happening. I am still prompted for a u/p. Maybe because the server does not have Updater 2 installed. I'll doublecheck - thanks. brook At 01:12 AM 2/3/2003 +0100, you wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well, for an administrative tools directory, off the root of a site. If >

Re: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-02 Thread Jochem van Dieten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, for an administrative tools directory, off the root of a site. If the > ACL's deny access to the IUSR account, any unauthenticated user is prompted > to enter their username/password to access the cfm files within that > directory (or if the files them self have

Re: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-02 Thread brook
Well, for an administrative tools directory, off the root of a site. If the ACL's deny access to the IUSR account, any unauthenticated user is prompted to enter their username/password to access the cfm files within that directory (or if the files them self have these ACL's). Is that enough sec

Re: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-02 Thread Jochem van Dieten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If the ACL's rules still apply, are they enough to use to restrict access? Could you elaborate? What do you want to do? Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Sub

Re: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-02 Thread brook
If the ACL's rules still apply, are they enough to use to restrict access? At 10:42 PM 2/2/2003 +0100, you wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Yikes - that would mean we would have to recode basically every app we > have > > ever made that has and web accessible admin directory. Do you think it

Re: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-02 Thread Jochem van Dieten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yikes - that would mean we would have to recode basically every app we have > ever made that has and web accessible admin directory. Do you think it > would be safe to use a cold fusion scripted login routine instead of ACL's > and WIndows Authentication. If you can

RE: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-02 Thread brook
Yikes - that would mean we would have to recode basically every app we have ever made that has and web accessible admin directory. Do you think it would be safe to use a cold fusion scripted login routine instead of ACL's and WIndows Authentication. I recall seeing recently that web based admi

RE: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-02 Thread Dave Watts
> Is there any way to use the "check that file exists" > setting in IIS while using SES URL's. > > Example: http:www.mysite.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/display/ No, I don't think so, since the file doesn't actually exist! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-

Re: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-01 Thread brook
Ok Thanks :) I guess my next question is: Is there any way to use the "check that file exists" setting in IIS while using SES URL's. Example: http:www.mysite.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/display/ Brook At 05:05 AM 2/2/03 +, you wrote: >Forgot to include another link that may help you > >htt

Re: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-01 Thread mark brinkworth
Forgot to include another link that may help you http://www.securitytracker.com/alerts/2003/Jan/1006023.html Cheers --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello Weekenders, > > I'm sure most of you got the MM Security bulletin > the other day > (http://www.macromedia.com/security). I am trying to >

Re: MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-01 Thread mark brinkworth
My understanding of this was that anybody could run the CFM template regardless of their NTFS file permissions, for that template. Cheers --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello Weekenders, > > I'm sure most of you got the MM Security bulletin > the other day > (http://www.macromedia.com/securit

MPSB03-02 - Using Windows NT Authentication and Windows file permissions

2003-02-01 Thread brook
Hello Weekenders, I'm sure most of you got the MM Security bulletin the other day (http://www.macromedia.com/security). I am trying to figure out what the security breach is if the steps outlines in the Security Bulletin are not taken. It doesn't describe what level of access an attacker could