Re: OT Why we are VERY careful about our Computer Systems WAS: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

2006-08-10 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Bryan Stevenson wrote: I guess the tides may be turning. I've always considered open source with caution because: 1) The projects are in constant flux so you just don't know what you'll get until you dig in I have to disagree with that. Most projects I know have very well defined

RE: OT Why we are VERY careful about our Computer Systems WAS: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

2006-08-09 Thread Ian Skinner
It could be that the mention of a contract was more along the lines of the fact you can legally go after a commercial software producer if their software does not operate as advertised. In the open source world you cannot. This is what I meant. Personally I use a lot of open source and think

RE: OT Why we are VERY careful about our Computer Systems WAS: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

2006-08-09 Thread Ian Skinner
quote Ok, much as I hate to eat such an intelligent bird, and those incidents make me worry more about training than licensing... :-) /quote Training was defiantly a BIG part of this incident (there was only one), but there where also software failures that contributed. Where the fault for

Re: OT Why we are VERY careful about our Computer Systems WAS: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

2006-08-09 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 19:38, Ian Skinner wrote: I'm posting this because I mentioned how a mistake we make could have lethal consequences. This is no different to traditional engineering (bridges, cars) really. Of course, yes, this means we have the same responsibility as the people who

Re: OT Why we are VERY careful about our Computer Systems WAS: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

2006-08-09 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Ok, much as I hate to eat such an intelligent bird, and those incidents make me worry more about training than licensing... :-) *munch* *munch* *munch* OK Dennyput down the sugar and step away slowlyI think you've had enough ;-) I guess a down side to open source is it's

Re: OT Why we are VERY careful about our Computer Systems WAS: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

2006-08-09 Thread Matt Robertson
Assuming a commercial product, doesn't the disclaimer you *always* get hit with routinely require that you disclaim all rights of recovery against the vendor? There's probably indemnification and hold-harmless agreements in there as well I bet (they're certainly in my own license agreement). You

Re: OT Why we are VERY careful about our Computer Systems WAS: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

2006-08-09 Thread Denny Valliant
On 8/9/06, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, much as I hate to eat such an intelligent bird, and those incidents make me worry more about training than licensing... :-) *munch* *munch* *munch* OK Dennyput down the sugar and step away slowlyI think you've had enough

OT Why we are VERY careful about our Computer Systems WAS: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

2006-08-08 Thread Ian Skinner
In this thread a couple of weeks ago, a side topic was generated that discussed why we are very careful of our computer technologies and which ones we choose. Incidents like this are why we are reluctant to go with open source technologies that do not have official organizations to contract

Re: OT Why we are VERY careful about our Computer Systems WAS: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

2006-08-08 Thread Denny Valliant
On 8/8/06, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this thread a couple of weeks ago, a side topic was generated that discussed why we are very careful of our computer technologies and which ones we choose. Incidents like this are why we are reluctant to go with open source technologies that

Re: OT Why we are VERY careful about our Computer Systems WAS: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

2006-08-08 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey Denny, It could be that the mention of a contract was more along the lines of the fact you can legally go after a commercial software producer if their software does not operate as advertised. In the open source world you cannot. I'm not entering this debate...just showing that there are

Re: OT Why we are VERY careful about our Computer Systems WAS: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

2006-08-08 Thread Denny Valliant
On 8/8/06, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not take the original posters comments about open source and contracting as a negative about open sourcejust the way the poster's company does business So you don't think my slander suit will stand up in court? A... :-) Ok,