Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-11 Thread Larry Lyons
No, Andy's Eclipse is always jacked up. I'm convinced, though, that it's a PEBKAC issue. Or he needs to stop looking at porn on his laptop;) Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer I was thinking he needs to get a computer that wasn't

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-11 Thread Eric Cobb
Actually, he just got a brand new, high-end HP laptop 3 or 4 weeks ago. Cutter's right, it's all the porn. Larry Lyons wrote: No, Andy's Eclipse is always jacked up. I'm convinced, though, that it's a PEBKAC issue. Or he needs to stop looking at porn on his laptop;) Steve Cutter Blades

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 05 Dec 2008, Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: How 'bout someone write an HTML/JS AIR based IDE? So we can get true cross-platform compatability. What's the point ? Eclipse sits on top of Java, which runs everywhere. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to carefully participate convergence

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
I was being a smartass Tom, for all the Eclipse haters out there. I'm a strong advocate of Eclipse, and CFEclipse in particular, though I'll happily take Bolt for a test spin. Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Co-Author of Learning

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Andy Matthews
: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt On Friday 05 Dec 2008, Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: How 'bout someone write an HTML/JS AIR based IDE? So we can get true cross-platform compatability. What's the point ? Eclipse sits on top of Java, which runs everywhere. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to carefully participate

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Dave Watts
Because Eclipse runs like a DOG on my machine. It takes sometimes up to 8-10 seconds when I click a tab to maximize that code window to the interface. You might want to try changing the JVM that Eclipse uses. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Gerald Guido
that code window to the interface. -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt On Friday 05 Dec 2008, Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: How 'bout someone write an HTML/JS AIR

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
No, Andy's Eclipse is always jacked up. I'm convinced, though, that it's a PEBKAC issue. Or he needs to stop looking at porn on his laptop;) Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Co-Author of Learning Ext JS

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Charlie Griefer
egad i'd hate to think that's the solution to any problem. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Cutter (CFRelated) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Andy's Eclipse is always jacked up. I'm convinced, though, that it's a PEBKAC issue. Or he needs to stop looking at porn on his laptop;) Steve Cutter

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Andy Allan
, Adobe's normal NDA would prevent you from saying so. -Original Message- From: mac jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 14:47 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John M Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed up for the beta

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
folding right? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code folding...that feature alone is worth

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the tip, Adam...I'll check it out. Rick -Original Message- From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:11 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Couple of thoughts rick. You could take a stab at adding the feature

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Dave l
I have started using Coda (http://www.panic.com/coda/) friggin love it! Probably the first IDE I have actually ever liked. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
Mac only, right? -Original Message- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:06 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I have started using Coda (http://www.panic.com/coda/) friggin love it! Probably the first IDE I have actually ever

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Dave l
Mac only, right? Is there anything else? ;)~ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive:

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Andy Matthews
Yes. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Mac only, right? -Original Message- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:06 PM

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Mac only, right? -Original Message- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:06 PM To: cf

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Charlie Griefer
/ne gets popcorn ready... On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yes. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Mac only, right

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Wil Genovese
Well if it's Mac only then I don't want itOh wait, I switched to Mac. OK, now it's a good thing ;-) Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Dec 5, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Andy Matthews wrote:

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
Got your anti-virus installed? :oP Wil Genovese wrote: Well if it's Mac only then I don't want itOh wait, I switched to Mac. OK, now it's a good thing ;-) Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Eric Roberts
jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 14:47 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John M Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed up for the beta. No word from the mothership yet. Ditto. -- mac jordan

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Gerald Guido
] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Mac only, right? -Original Message- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:06 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I have

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread John M Bliss
I signed up for the beta. No word from the mothership yet. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: So...anyone *not* using the Bolt beta, please raise your hands... I don't see any hands, so it must be out. Is anyone allowed to confirm that it's out and being

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread mac jordan
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John M Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed up for the beta. No word from the mothership yet. Ditto. -- mac jordan www.webhorus.net | www.reactivecooking.com | www.nibblous.com | www.jordan-cats.org

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Tom Chiverton
Had there been word, Adobe's normal NDA would prevent you from saying so. -Original Message- From: mac jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 14:47 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John M Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
So...anyone *not* using the Bolt beta, please raise your hands... I don't see any hands, so it must be out. Is anyone allowed to confirm that it's out and being used and therefore I didn't get a chance to work with the beta? :o( I'm not - not even sure if I'm going to until I see a good

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Jacob
+1 -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:39 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I signed up for the beta. No word from the mothership yet. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Dawson, Michael
I'm not saying anything. ;^) -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 8:49 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Had there been word, Adobe's normal NDA would prevent you from saying so

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Jason Fisher
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Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
CF IDE, Bolt On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John M Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed up for the beta. No word from the mothership yet. Ditto. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Billy Cox
Maybe they have to rebrand since Disney's latest non-Pixar movie is named 'Bolt'. I wouldn't want *my* IDE to share a name with a stupid movie. But on a technical note... Is this IDE targeted to current Eclipse users, or is Adobe trying to convert programmers who are using Dreamweaver?

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
normal NDA would prevent you from saying so. -Original Message- From: mac jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 14:47 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John M Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed up

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Billy Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe they have to rebrand since Disney's latest non-Pixar movie is named 'Bolt'. I wouldn't want *my* IDE to share a name with a stupid movie. But on a technical note... Is this IDE targeted to current Eclipse users, or is

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Scott Stewart
from what I understand, from reading the little bit of internet scuttlebutt that's out there,.. it's supposed to be the CF Studio Replacement What that means... who knows? Billy Cox wrote: Maybe they have to rebrand since Disney's latest non-Pixar movie is named 'Bolt'. I wouldn't want *my*

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code folding...that feature alone is worth $100 at least to me... Charlie Griefer wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Billy Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe they have to rebrand since Disney's latest non-Pixar

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Tom Chiverton
Bolt is only the code name, I guess, so the clash doesn't matter. -Original Message- From: Billy Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 15:52 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Maybe they have to rebrand since Disney's latest non-Pixar movie is named 'Bolt'. I

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Robert Harrison
I wouldn't want *my* IDE to share a name with a stupid movie. It wasn't a stupid movie. IMHO it was actually rather good... and it was about BOLT having superpowers, as I hope the new BOLT IDE does. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Dawson, Michael
So, then it would be called EF Studio? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code folding

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
Sounds good to me... hopefully, short for Everyone's Favorite Studio... Dawson, Michael wrote: So, then it would be called EF Studio? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Andy Matthews
You realize that Eclipse has code folding right? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
PROTECTED]wrote: You realize that Eclipse has code folding right? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
1) 'Bolt' was a good movie. 2) 'Bolt' (the IDE codename) is probably a reference to the logo that ColdFusion had in the Allaire days. I'm hoping the keep the codename, and start 'branding' ColdFusion again. Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Gerald Guido
? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code folding...that feature alone is worth $100 at least

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code folding...that feature alone is worth $100 at least to me... Charlie Griefer wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Billy Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
Bolt would be an okay name...but I still like Elmer Fudd Studio. :o) Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: 1) 'Bolt' was a good movie. 2) 'Bolt' (the IDE codename) is probably a reference to the logo that ColdFusion had in the Allaire days. I'm hoping the keep the codename, and start 'branding'

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Aaron Rouse
... Andy Matthews wrote: You realize that Eclipse has code folding right? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
Well, I mean it's worthless in the manner I want to use it, not that it's worthless to everyone else... I use to organize, quickly scan, and navigate sections of code, especially when I first open a file. Aaron Rouse wrote: Worthless to have persistent folding? While I never have used it,

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread s. isaac dealey
I wouldn't want *my* IDE to share a name with a stupid movie. It wasn't a stupid movie. IMHO it was actually rather good... and it was about BOLT having superpowers, as I hope the new BOLT IDE does. I thought it was about Bolt being deluded and only thinking he had superpowers. ;) -- s.

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread s. isaac dealey
Part of the larger WB Studio suite. :) So, then it would be called EF Studio? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread s. isaac dealey
In the spirit of Blue Monster Reserve http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/004170.html I think it's hilariously ironic that Microsoft employees are trying to change the world and convince the corporate suits to become more open and stop maintaining their monopoly-esque

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Ben Forta
: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt So...anyone *not* using the Bolt beta, please raise your hands... I don't see any hands, so it must be out. Is anyone allowed to confirm that it's out and being used and therefore I didn't get a chance to work with the beta? :o( I'm not - not even sure if I'm going to until I

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the info, Ben! Rick -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:59 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt The formal Bolt beta has not yet started, so the fact that you've heard nothing yet does not mean

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Adam Haskell
: You realize that Eclipse has code folding right? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has