Re: Another Locking Question

2003-01-14 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Jan 13, 2003, at 22:27 US/Pacific, Matt Robertson wrote: Client vars are, for my money, the Holy Grail with respect to completely replacing session vars. Scaleable to clusters, zero locking issues, maintain state, and expiration can be controlled precisely like session vars with

Re: Another Locking Question

2003-01-13 Thread Chris Norloff
Yes. Yes. -- Original Message -- From: Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:23:55 -0500 Hi, If I reference an APPLICATION var using isDefined, do I have to read lock it. Is the var really being read?

RE: Another Locking Question

2003-01-13 Thread Everett, Al
No, it isn't, because I presume you'll have an EXCLUSIVE lock in the include file, putting an EXCLUSIVE lock inside a READONLY lock. Bad, bad, bad. We've found using Application variables generally isn't necessary. We include a file in Application.cfm that sets all the global variables we need in

Re: Another Locking Question

2003-01-13 Thread Christian Cantrell
If you are going to put initialization code like this in your Application.cfm file, just be sure that you do not use any code that can generate another HTTP request for another CFM file (such as a cfhttp tag) as you may either create an infinite loop (with a readonly lock) or a deadlock

RE: Another Locking Question

2003-01-13 Thread Dave Watts
I got a tip previously on cf-talk that advised me to do this in my application.cfm: !--- Page By Page Session Variables --- CFIF IsDefined(Session.Collections) cflock scope=session type=readonly timeout=20 cfset request.session = duplicate(session) /cflock

RE: Another Locking Question

2003-01-13 Thread Matt Robertson
Dave Watts wrote In general, I'm not a big fan of this approach, Me neither, especially since not locking the session var in the isdefined() as was shown in the original post is improper. You would have to lock the whole thing, cfif isdefined and all. Client vars are, for my money, the Holy

Re: Another Locking Question

2003-01-12 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Sunday, Jan 12, 2003, at 12:23 US/Pacific, Webmaster wrote: If I reference an APPLICATION var using isDefined, do I have to read lock it. Is the var really being read? No, but... If you are trying to avoid a race condition, you may need to lock. See my blog entry:

Re: Another Locking Question

2003-01-12 Thread Gyrus
- Original Message - From: Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I reference an APPLICATION var using isDefined, do I have to read lock it. Is the var really being read? --- Yep - if you're not on CFMX, even IsDefined(sharedScope.varName) needs a lock around it. If

RE: Another Locking Question

2003-01-12 Thread Matt Robertson
While there arguably are circumstances where you don't need to lock, if you just do it always, everywhere (subject to the smart use of temp vars as was pointed out already), your code will work properly. I have yet to see any instance where locking instituted any noticeable performance penalty at

Re: Another Locking Question

2003-01-12 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Sunday, Jan 12, 2003, at 13:23 US/Pacific, Matt Robertson wrote: I have yet to see any instance where locking instituted any noticeable performance penalty at any level. If you lock within Application.cfm, you will single-thread your application and it will not scale. For low-traffic

Re: Another Locking Question

2003-01-12 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Sean A Corfield wrote: On Sunday, Jan 12, 2003, at 13:23 US/Pacific, Matt Robertson wrote: I have yet to see any instance where locking instituted any noticeable performance penalty at any level. If you lock within Application.cfm, you will single-thread your application and it will not

Re: Another Locking Question

2003-01-12 Thread Antony Sideropoulos
I got a tip previously on cf-talk that advised me to do this in my application.cfm: !--- Page By Page Session Variables --- CFIF IsDefined(Session.Collections) cflock scope=session type=readonly timeout=20 cfset request.session = duplicate(session) /cflock /CFIF

Re: Another Locking Question

2003-01-12 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Sunday, Jan 12, 2003, at 14:20 US/Pacific, Jochem van Dieten wrote: Sean A Corfield wrote: If you lock within Application.cfm, you will single-thread your application and it will not scale. For low-traffic applications, that may be fine. I think that is a bit of an oversimplification.

RE: Another Locking Question

2003-01-12 Thread Matt Robertson
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