On Wednesday 18 Mar 2009, Rick Faircloth wrote:
So, do quad core processors just give you 4 times as much
room to put users on a system as a single core?
It's not that linear - we fundamentally do not know how to write compilers
that can parallelise our code well, so as you add more cores,
Yes, a slice is not exactly scientific, but assuming
the slices are of equal size...P4 or Quad?
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:40 PM
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Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
It makes
You're better off on multicore systems. If the VMs are set up
properly, you aren't bound to a given core, so there's more chance
that there's a core free for your slice when it's your time.
As an example, our main VM servers are quad CPU quad core systems
(i.e. 16 cores in each box).
mxAjax /
Yes, a slice is not exactly scientific, but assuming
the slices are of equal size...P4 or Quad?
My point is that you have absolutely no reason to assume that. Anybody
allocating virtualized server resources is going to tend toward
maximum allocation of those resources.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig
Mercy...16 cores in a server.
Question...ot..but...
If I build a workstation (I'm tired of slow processing
on my years-old P4) with a quad core processor, can I assign
certain apps to run on only a certain core and restrict other
programs from using that core? Or do I have to let Windows
(will
[mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:48 PM
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Yes, a slice is not exactly scientific, but assuming
the slices are of equal size...P4 or Quad?
My point is that you have absolutely no reason to assume
Dave Watts wrote:
Yes, a slice is not exactly scientific, but assuming
the slices are of equal size...P4 or Quad?
My point is that you have absolutely no reason to assume that. Anybody
allocating virtualized server resources is going to tend toward
maximum allocation of those resources.
True...but I would tend to think, as a general rule, that
anyone offering quad-core is offering more than
someone offering P4.
I would tend to think that anyone offering quad-core will play this up
in their advertising for exactly this reason, regardless of the actual
fact of the matter.
Yeah, like anyone that offers hosting with a P4 server
is less likely to pack it with users...sure...
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:45 PM
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Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
True
Yeah, like anyone that offers hosting with a P4 server
is less likely to pack it with users...sure...
They won't be any more likely to pack it with users, either. In both
cases, they would be inclined to support as many users as the hardware
can handle. That's the logical business decision.
sure, for instance,
that Eclipse, always had a full core to itself and other, less
important software, could share cores.
Is that possible?
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:24 PM
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Subject: Re: Anybody have
So, do quad core processors just give you 4 times as
much room to put users on a system as a single
core? (I've started trying to find out what advantage
quad core processors really have over very fast single
core processors.
They can run more threads at the same time. Cores are
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Hmmm... let me look at ServerPronto's site...
- Intel Pentium 4, 3 GHz (as opposed to a Quad Core Pentium)
You don't get a quad core pentium, you get a time-slice off a quad core
pentium.
- Only 6 email support tickets per month ($15 each for extra!)
- 6 reboots
- and from Jochems remarks awhile back, you do just get a slice of a
quad-core
Pentium, but that beats a slice of a Pentium 4!
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From: Mike Aushana [mailto:mi...@madwebdesigns.ca]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:43 PM
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PS - and from Jochems remarks awhile back, you do
just get a slice of a quad-core Pentium, but that beats
a slice of a Pentium 4!
That is not necessarily true.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
Doing any PDF or image creation/manipulation? If so how are you finding it
for speed?
Adrian
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From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: 16 March 2009 16:04
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Subject: RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
I've kinda lost
beats a slice of a Pentium 4?
What part are your referring to?
Rick
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:18 PM
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PS - and from Jochems remarks awhile
exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Doing any PDF or image creation/manipulation? If so how are you finding
it
for speed?
Adrian
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From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: 16 March 2009 16:04
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Anybody have exerience
I ended up getting a dedicated server from CFDynamics, the $189 a month
dedicated package. CF was included in the price as was a shared SQL server.
While it isn't a particulary fast machine (not a quad core p4), since I have it
all to myself, it runs like a champ. I have had it running for 2
As a KAVPS user looking for other providers (note the looking for other
providers part...), I would highly recommend you stay away from them.
Dear Anon ymous,
If you put ANYTHING of consequence on a VPS for $25-35/mo. you have simply
gotten what you paid for.
You get what you pay for.
It makes sense to me that a VPS would only be getting
a part of the processing potential of whatever processor
it's running on...is the quad-core different? Could I be
getting an entire core to myself of the quad?
Or is it not necessarily true that a slice of a quad core
beats a slice of
As a KAVPS user looking for other providers (note the looking for other
providers part...), I would highly recommend you stay away from them. As far as
I can tell there is exactly one person running this business, which would be
fine if there weren't so many problems he needed to tend to.
* I
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Hmmm... let me look at ServerPronto's site...
- Intel Pentium 4, 3 GHz (as opposed to a Quad Core Pentium)
You don't get a quad core pentium, you get a time-slice off a quad core
pentium.
- Only 6 email support tickets per month ($15 each for extra!)
- 6 reboots
Mary Jo said:
This is one of the major reasons we went with KAVPS...they don't skimp on
the RAM. I personally just get a little leery about running CF, MySQL *and*
a mail server on 512MB of RAM. My customer's site which is a really
low-traffic site is typically using about 450MB (again though,
Thanks for the info, Mary Jo!
Rick
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From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
I'm considering moving to a new VPS provider and found KickAssVPS.com
- Plesk for 100 Domains - $40 per month (incl with KAVPS)
Why would you need this? You have the root password.
So the phone doesn't ring every time someone needs a new email account or
forgets their password . That gets old real fast.
~G~
--
If everything seems under control, you're not
Yes! 512MB! With 512GB of RAM, who would need hard drive space! :o)
Rick
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From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:38 AM
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It's quite a jump, but I've
, Jochem, and for furthering the discussion
and understanding.
Rick
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From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:34 AM
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Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Hmmm... let me
I was concerned about the 512MB RAM I've been using, too. I haven't put
my more demanding CF 8 sites into full operation on the VPS I've been
using, but I'll be a *lot* more comfortable with 2GB's!
MSSQL on KAVPS: The feature list just mentions MSSQL 2005. Don't know
whether it's Express or
Mary Jo,
again though, that's Railo,
I know this is a bit of a thread hijack... Sorry about that, But I am super
curious how things have been working out using Railo in a production
Environment..
What has been your experience been like using Railo? Did you run it as a
stand alone server or in
You don't get a quad core pentium, you get a time-slice off a quad
core pentium.
True, but a slice off a quad core is better than a slice off a P4...
If it's a dedicated server, you get the whole thing, not a slice. You have
no idea how many VMs are sharing that quad core, do you?
Dave
have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
You don't get a quad core pentium, you get a time-slice off a quad
core pentium.
True, but a slice off a quad core is better than a slice off a P4...
If it's a dedicated server, you get the whole thing, not a slice. You have
no idea how many VMs
I need to make a move from my current VPS provider. I've had problems
accessing the server via Remote Desktop for a month and while I've been
promised support and even a new server, I can't even get an answer on status
for a priority email. I can't even set up a datasource for a client.
Rick,
You can always try SoftLayer.com
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From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:44:56 PM
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I need to make a move from my current VPS provider. I've
- $155 / month for 20GB drive space and 2GB RAM
Rick
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From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:45 PM
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Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
I need to make a move from my current VPS provider. I've
It's quite a jump, but I've got to have a reliable server and service.
HostMySite.com and KickAssVPS.com are in the running right now.
HostMySite.com - $129 / month for 10GB drive space and 512GB RAM
KickAssVPS.com - $155 / month for 20GB drive space and 2GB RAM
Rick, just don't make a major
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From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
It's quite a jump, but I've got to have a reliable server and service.
HostMySite.com and KickAssVPS.com
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Just to let you know...
KickAssVPS.com cut me a deal for $100 per month
on a VPS with these specs: (Normally $130)
At these prices, wouldn't purchasing a Coldfusion license from Adobe, and
renting a dedicated server
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Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Just to let you know...
KickAssVPS.com cut me a deal for $100 per month
on a VPS with these specs: (Normally $130)
At these prices
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hmmm... let me look at ServerPronto's site...
- Intel Pentium 4, 3 GHz (as opposed to a Quad Core Pentium)
- 1 GB RAM (Half as much)
- 160 GB HDD (as opposed to 30 GB data space)
- 800 GB Traffic Bandwidth (only 200 GB
I'm considering moving to a new VPS provider and found KickAssVPS.com on
Google.
I haven't heard of them before or seen them mentioned on the list, so I thought
I'd ask about experience. Offerings and price looks good, including CF 8.
Rick, I've been using KickAss for a few months now with a
It's quite a jump, but I've got to have a reliable server and service.
HostMySite.com and KickAssVPS.com are in the running right now.
HostMySite.com - $129 / month for 10GB drive space and 512GB RAM
KickAssVPS.com - $155 / month for 20GB drive space and 2GB RAM
I assume you mean HMS is 512MB,
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