> I've asked this question before but I'm still unclear about
> it. In was cases would you choose Jrun4 over CFMX. Can't they
> both do the same thing? Even if there is something in JRun
> that CFMX doesn't natively do, can't CFMX be extended to do
> it?
>
> What is the advantages of using JRun
Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages to JRun
over CFMX?
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
> I've asked this question before but I&#x
can do the same jobs with both - but if you want to
mix then you'll need JRUN (or some other J2EE server).
Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:24 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: J
> Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages
> to JRun over CFMX?
If you install CFMX Enterprise or CFMX Standard by themselves, they come
with a subset of JRun - enough of JRun to run CFMX, basically. If you
install CFMX for J2EE on top of an existing J2EE server, like J
? If they both can do the same job, why would one
choose JRun over CFMX? Speaking of those that do choose JRun over CFMX.
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From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
It may be flippant - bu
Right, I think I'm thinking more about JSP the language than the server.
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
> Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there a
r.
>
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>>Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages
>>to JRun
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> It may be flippant - but I've said "if you don't know whether or not you
> need it, then you probably don't."
>
> In this case JRUN
any advantages to JRun
>over CFMX?
>
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>From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>I've asked this question before but I'm s
Jim,
You can still run JSP pages without a separate installation of JRun.
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> It may be flippant - but I've said "if you don't know whether or not you
> need it, then you probably don't."
>
> I
"Why would you use JRun if you weren't going to write any Enterprise Java?"
Good question, it's what I'm trying to ask!! Why use JRun over CFMX?
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From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:35 PM
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all of the selling points for CFML, what are they for JSP, leaving out J2EE?
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From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Jrun4 and CFMX
Oh, ok. In that case, I'd go with CFMX in a heartbeat. I ha
> I see many people using JSP all the time, and I wonder what the
> big deal is. I say to myself if they just knew what CFML could
> do to their development. But these people are die-hard scripters
> and they stick to JSP. Other than J2EE, does JSP have anything over
> CFML? I know all of the se
> Right, I think I'm thinking more about JSP the language than
> the server.
I can't think of any reason I'd use JSP over CFMX, if I knew both and both
were available.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
| > I see many people
on/opinion...
Cheers,
Stace
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From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: September 18, 2003 8:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Jrun4 and CFMX
Isn't it true that the die-hard CFML coders are just as fervent? The
same goes
for the C and VB coders, right.
You use the
Thanks Dave
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 7:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
> I see many people using JSP all the time, and I wonder what the
> big deal is. I say to myself if they just knew what CFML
On Thursday, Sep 18, 2003, at 12:48 US/Pacific, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
> Save from EJB, etc, what does JSP the language have over CFMX if it
> does
> have something over CFMX? If they both can do the same job, why would
> one
> choose JRun over CFMX? Speaking of those that do choose JRun over CFMX
> But a lot of
> people don't know enough about CFML to consider it a viable alternative
> to JSP and / or they believe the FUD - Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt -
> spread by CF's detractors...
Well, if you ever used CF3.0, which had NO proper way to handle
multithreaded session requests, and had a
> But a lot of
> people don't know enough about CFML to consider it a viable
alternative
> to JSP and / or they believe the FUD - Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt -
> spread by CF's detractors...
Well, if you ever used CF3.0, which had NO proper way to handle
multithreaded session requests, and
> Well, if you ever used CF3.0, which had NO proper way ...
What was the point of that post? POS, indeed.
My 2 cents worth: we've been using both CF and JRun for some time now. JSP,
on its own, has nothing to recommend it over CF, except that you can deploy
JSP apps on free standards-based softwa
junk,
BTW) and ColdFusion.
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From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: September 23, 2003 12:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Jrun4 and CFMX
> Well, if you ever used CF3.0, which had NO proper way ...
What was the point of that post? POS, indeed.
> However it's riduculous to compare those versions to the modern
versions: remembe what ELSE was available then? NOTHING was very good
at the time (well, except for Perl, I suppose). WebPlus a poor CF clone,
Java was so much in it's infancy you couldn't really build squat (except
for memory-l
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