Re: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-06 Thread Alex
Thanks. I just did and it worked. %% http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";> Untitled Hi Break Line % On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Jochem van Dieten wrote: > Alex wrote: > > > > I am getting at that in XHTML tag

Re: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-06 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Alex wrote: > > I am getting at that in XHTML tags that do not have an ending tag like > and DO NOT need one. Maybe you should read these emails before > you send out you marketing blurbs. May I suggest you write a page that way and try to run it through http://validator.w3.org/? Jochem ___

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Dave Watts
> I am getting at that in XHTML tags that do not have an > ending tag like and DO NOT need one. Maybe > you should read these emails before you send out you > marketing blurbs. I hardly think you're in a position to tell me I should read these emails. I think I've read them very carefully, a

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Brad Roberts
> I am getting at that in XHTML tags that do not have an ending tag like > and DO NOT need one. Maybe you should read these emails before > you send out you marketing blurbs. In XHTML, tags like and DO NEED an end tag. However, they can "be their own" end tag, i.e. , which is equivalent to .

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Alex
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Dave Watts wrote: > > > > > > > Well, that's a little different. If you want to write HTML > > > > > > > that will comply with XHTML, you have to close every tag, > > > > > > > even BR and HR tags which would never contain anything - > > > > > > > that's just the nature of XML

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Dave Watts
> > > > > > Well, that's a little different. If you want to write HTML > > > > > > that will comply with XHTML, you have to close every tag, > > > > > > even BR and HR tags which would never contain anything - > > > > > > that's just the nature of XML. > > > > > > > > > > Tags that do not have clo

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Alex
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Ben Johnson wrote: > > Maybe I misread but this was about xhtml not xml. In xhtml you do not need > > to explicitly close tags like with a . One is good > > enough. > > XML does not need an explicit end tag either. A node works the same > as . It's the same idea in both X

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Alex
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Dave Watts wrote: > > > > > Well, that's a little different. If you want to write HTML > > > > > that will comply with XHTML, you have to close every tag, > > > > > even BR and HR tags which would never contain anything - > > > > > that's just the nature of XML. > > > > > > >

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Ben Johnson
> Maybe I misread but this was about xhtml not xml. In xhtml you do not need > to explicitly close tags like with a . One is good > enough. XML does not need an explicit end tag either. A node works the same as . It's the same idea in both XML and XHTML. There's no "right" way. is just cl

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Dave Watts
> > > > Well, that's a little different. If you want to write HTML > > > > that will comply with XHTML, you have to close every tag, > > > > even BR and HR tags which would never contain anything - > > > > that's just the nature of XML. > > > > > > Tags that do not have closing tags only need a sl

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Alex
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Dave Watts wrote: > > > Well, that's a little different. If you want to write HTML > > > that will comply with XHTML, you have to close every tag, > > > even BR and HR tags which would never contain anything - > > > that's just the nature of XML. > > > > Tags that do not have

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Brad Roberts
> Another reason to code your CF with XML compliance is that it > gets you in a > good habit. I think that's a great reason to use XML compliance in your code. However, it's pretty easy to build a habit of using certain syntax for certain tags. For instance, I'm in the habit of ending , , , etc

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Ben Johnson
> I fail to see why?! I mentioned that you could parse your code with CFXML if it was XML compliant. You'd have to do something with your HTML, but it could work. I'm not saying that parsing your CF code into an XML document will solve all the problems in the world, but there's some cool stuff y

Re: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
CFSCRIPT still has its uses and I happen to use it all the time when it comes to large groups of simple syntax. Its definitely not dead. > > You can't "comply" the CF markup language to an XML standard, it's not > XML. > > True, it's not XML, but that doesn't mean the code that I write can't c

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Weaver, Anthony
I have been writing CF code since 3.x and have NEVER used CFScript. I have never actually found a need. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 2:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT: Naming Convention choice > Ben! Say it ai

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Ben Johnson
> Ben! Say it ain't so! :D I still use a lot! Even inside > components! = evil.Actually, I think I just got turned off by it when it debugged with the line number of the starting tag. I know it's fixed, but I like my tag based CF code better anyway. Ben Johnson _

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Neil Clark - =TMM=
: Naming Convention choice > You can't "comply" the CF markup language to an XML standard, it's not XML. True, it's not XML, but that doesn't mean the code that I write can't comply with XML. With the exception of blocks, I can't think of any part of Cold

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread todd
> now with CFMX, really isn't necessary. > > Ben Johnson Ben! Say it ain't so! :D I still use a lot! Even inside components! ~Todd -- Todd Rafferty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - http://www.web-rat.com/ | Team Macromedia Voluntee

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Ben Johnson
> You can't "comply" the CF markup language to an XML standard, it's not XML. True, it's not XML, but that doesn't mean the code that I write can't comply with XML. With the exception of blocks, I can't think of any part of ColdFusion that can't comply with XML. Anybody know of any? And now w

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Brad Roberts
> Also, another question. Would the following be XHTML compliant: > > > > Or would it have to be: > > You can't "comply" the CF markup language to an XML standard, it's not XML. __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebo

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Ben Johnson
> By following that example, what am I gaining? being XHTML compliant? Who > cares? What if I never do XHTML? < here>> One thing that I could see being very useful in terms would be parsing through your code with another CF page. For example, if your code is XHTML compliant, you could probab

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread todd
Ok, I get it. Thanks for the discussion! ~Todd On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Dave Watts wrote: > > But, I also have another question as well... if we (the > > developers) do take that precaution to make sure that our > > stuff works and nothing is executed twice, should we be > > following that standa

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Dave Watts
> > Well, that's a little different. If you want to write HTML > > that will comply with XHTML, you have to close every tag, > > even BR and HR tags which would never contain anything - > > that's just the nature of XML. > > Tags that do not have closing tags only need a slash at the > end. L

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Dave Watts
> But, I also have another question as well... if we (the > developers) do take that precaution to make sure that our > stuff works and nothing is executed twice, should we be > following that standard? I'm seeing that in just about > every sample / tutorial all over the place and ... Well, i

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Rizal Firmansyah
aaah... nice link :) actually the first time I read this "Hungarian notation" (or whatever you call it) is in "Code Complete" book by McConnell - M$ press, if i'm not mistaken. That was 7 years ago... The idea of "Hungarian notation" is really good, and it's applicable in most programming langu

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Alex
> Well, that's a little different. If you want to write HTML that will comply > with XHTML, you have to close every tag, even BR and HR tags which would > never contain anything - that's just the nature of XML. Tags that do not have closing tags only need a slash at the end. Like . _

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread todd
> However, my point was simply that blindly following XML syntax for CFML may > have unintended consequences. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software Agreed and I was just following up with how to avoid that. :) But, I also have another question as well... if we (the developers) do take that p

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Dave Watts
> And the way around to prevent it from executing twice is to: > > > ... your code here > > > within the customTag. Yes, that functionality is fully described in the CF documentation, I'm sure, and covered in detail in the "Advanced ColdFusion Development" course from MM. You've got all sor

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread todd
And the way around to prevent it from executing twice is to: ... your code here within the customTag. Didn't I just see this on Corfield's blog or something? I swore I saw this somewhere, I can't find the reference to it now. ~Todd On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Dave Watts wrote: > > > Really? D

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Dave Watts
> > Really? Do you do this: > > > > > > I have seen a lot of code like this ... Especially 's > > Studio does it automatically for you as well ... Well, that's a little different. If you want to write HTML that will comply with XHTML, you have to close every tag, even BR and HR tags which wo

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Dave Watts
> "Hungarian style", Buci? It's called "Hungarian notation", actually: http://web.umr.edu/~cpp/common/hungarian.html It uses prefixes within variable names to make clear the datatype of the variable. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797

Re: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Dick Applebaum
"Hungarian style", Buci? On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 08:05 AM, Rizal Firmansyah wrote: > I use "Hungarian" style for naming convention, > that is using prefix such as: > i for integer -> iQuantity > str for string -> strName > fl for float -> flPrice > qry for query -> qryProducts > etc... >

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Erika L. Walker
I have seen a lot of code like this ... Especially 's Studio does it automatically for you as well ... Erika >>| -Original Message- >>| From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>| >>| Really? Do you do this: >>| >>|

RE: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Dave Watts
> > Curious as to which one people prefer. > > I prefer to treat CFML like it is XHTML. Really? Do you do this: Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Structure

Re: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Jacob
I tend to cap all HTML tags and lowercase all cftags. At 03:24 PM 7/5/2002 +0100, you wrote: >I tend to capitialise all the CFTags, lowercase the HTML tags and the Mix >case Function and Variable names... > > > > > > > #UCase(sMyName)# >

Re: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Rizal Firmansyah
I use "Hungarian" style for naming convention, that is using prefix such as: i for integer -> iQuantity str for string -> strName fl for float -> flPrice qry for query -> qryProducts etc... and i lower case every tags (thanks to CF studio) Rizal At 09:13 PM 7/5/2002, you wrote: >Curious as to w

Re: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Paul Giesenhagen wrote: > Curious as to which one people prefer. I prefer to treat CFML like it is XHTML. Jochem __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldf

Re: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Mike Townend
I tend to capitialise all the CFTags, lowercase the HTML tags and the Mix case Function and Variable names... #UCase(sMyName)# tis just how ive always done it i think its more of a personal choice unless a com

Re: OT: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Tony Schreiber
Personally, I type all my tags in UPPERCASE. My attribute values, querynames and variables are usually lowercase or "javascript" style (queryName). > > > OR > > > > Also, out of curiosity these too: > > (all caps) > > Or > > > > Thanks > Paul Giesenhagen > QuillDesign > > ___