Re: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 16:51, Matt Quackenbush wrote: > main question now is: what is considered the "best" antidote for such a > problem. Since I didn't know what it was, I obviously don't use web Don't use HTTP GET (links) for things that have side effects use them for views. Use HTTP POST

Re: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 16:30, Matt Quackenbush wrote: > Hmm... okay, so the issue that is being referred to here is when the > login check is handled AFTER that link is displayed? No, no, no - it's much worse. The Google accelerator thing looks at the page loaded in the browser (which

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Al Musella, DPM
Actually, in my defense:) the web accelerator is not supposed to follow a link that has a query parameter... and it worked correctly for a long time.. apparently a recent update to it introduced a bug where it IS following links with query parameters. I reported it to google. >It wasn

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Dave Watts
> I am just playing with this in my head. Would a form with > method="get" be affected by the accelerator, or only anchors > with get parameters built in to the href parameter? I haven't used it, so I can only speculate. That said, I suspect that it only follows A tags. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Le

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Ian Skinner
Yes, since the Web Accelerator only makes GET requests. In HTTP, GET requests shouldn't make changes; only POST requests should do that. Dave I am just playing with this in my head. Would a form with method="get" be affected by the accelerator, or only anchors with get parameters built in to

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Dave Watts
> Thanks for the reply. I guess I first should've gone and > checked to see what 'web accelerator' was, and then I might > have understood. I guess my main question now is: what is > considered the "best" antidote for such a problem. Since I > didn't know what it was, I obviously don't use w

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Matt Quackenbush
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Strange security problem with googlebot > Hmm... okay, so the issue that is being referred to here is when > the login check is handled AFTER that link is displayed? I guess I'm > still a bit confused

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Dave Watts
> Hmm... okay, so the issue that is being referred to here > is when the login check is handled AFTER that link is > displayed? I guess I'm still a bit confused, because I can't > understand a) why any such link would be displayed to anyone > (or any bot) without them first being logged-in

Re: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Matt Quackenbush wrote: > Hmm... okay, so the issue that is being referred to here is when the > login check is handled AFTER that link is displayed? I guess I'm still a > bit confused, because I can't understand a) why any such link would be > displayed to anyone (or any bot) without them fir

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Matt Quackenbush
and having the appropriate credentials, and b) how a bot would get past a login/credential check. Thanks, Matt -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Strange security problem with googlebot On

Re: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 15:50, Matt Quackenbush wrote: > Okay, call me silly, but what kind of code exactly can cause this problem? Delete this user -- Tom Chiverton Helping to assertively utilize leading-edge relationships This email is

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Matt Quackenbush
riginal Message- From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Strange security problem with googlebot You hit it.. it was the web accelerator. I now know that I should not let a simple clicked link change anything. Both of t

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Al Musella, DPM
You hit it.. it was the web accelerator. I now know that I should not let a simple clicked link change anything. Both of these sites were written in cold fusion version 2 and 3 when I didn't know better:) WAY too many pages to go back and change them now. I thought since it was password prot

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-09 Thread Dave Watts
>I don't know how this could possibly happen... > >on 2 of my websites, someone hacked into the admin areas > and changed hundreds of things by clicking links. I log > every action taken, along with the ip address of who did it > and traced back the ip to googlebot. > > I was using II