RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-06 Thread jon roig
-- jon -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] I'm sorry, but nothing -- Windows, Mac, Solaris, etc -- can touch the value and performance offered by Linu

Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-06 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 07:47 , Joshua Miller wrote: > I don't think it's completely scientific to assume that your company > is the norm. Our company has 300 computers and about 100 of > them are Macs ... so with your logic applied here, one out of every > three computers is a Mac - that

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-06 Thread Matt Liotta
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:01 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > > What I was getting at was that a lot more people would use Mac > hardware if they could run the things they want. I would love to > setup some

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-06 Thread Joshua Miller
What I was getting at was that a lot more people would use Mac hardware if they could run the things they want. I would love to setup some XServers for our application hosting, but since CF doesn't run on it, it would be a foolish purchase. I know there are other things that do run on Mac, but

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-06 Thread Joshua Miller
What I was getting at was that a lot more people would use Mac hardware if they could run the things they want. I would love to setup some XServers for our application hosting, but since CF doesn't run on it, it would be a foolish purchase. I know there are other things that do run on Mac, but

Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-06 Thread Joshua Miller
rom: "Joshua Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:22 PM >Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > > >> Because ColdFusion doesn't run on it - it's a catch 22 huh? >>

Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 09:57 , Joshua Miller wrote: > Out of curiosity, where did you get the version of CFMX you run on OSX > daily? Did you build it yourself using Dick's method or is there another > way to do it? I have three laptops: Windows 2000, Mac OS X and Linux RH 7.2. What I

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Jesse Noller
Nahh, Matt is his own person. We disagree all the time. Of course, it could be schizophrenia setting in. -jesse -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux

Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Dick Applebaum
day, September 05, 2002 2:08 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] >> >> Fortunately "people Matt knows" is not a universal standard for >> determining >> if something is worth while. >> >> >> -Original

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Matt Liotta
sday, September 05, 2002 2:08 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > > Fortunately "people Matt knows" is not a universal standard for > determining > if something is worth while. > > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Lio

Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Joe Eugene
lk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > Because ColdFusion doesn't run on it - it's a catch 22 huh? > > Joshua Miller > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- &

Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Dick Applebaum
pment > Unix/Linux "special guy" > > "But I ned tacos! I need them or I will > explode! That happens to me sometimes!" -GIR > >> -Original Message- >> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Thursday, September 05,

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
> > > I think that this would a natural for anyone considering > > > hosting on a Mac Server. > > > > Yeah it would, but who is thinking about hosting a Mac > > server? No one I know. > > Because ColdFusion doesn't run on it - it's a catch 22 huh? No, not really - there are plenty of other app

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Joshua Miller
Because ColdFusion doesn't run on it - it's a catch 22 huh? Joshua Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > I think th

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Buddy
Fortunately "people Matt knows" is not a universal standard for determining if something is worth while. -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] >

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Matt Liotta
> I think that this would a natural for anyone considering hosting on a > Mac Server. > Yeah it would, but who is thinking about hosting a Mac server? No one I know. -Matt __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted b

Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 01:12 PM, Matt Liotta wrote: > Well I am pretty sure I could do it, but I would of course have to have > my lawyers look over everything and discuss it with Macromedia. It > really has nothing to do with my business as I don't expect to sell my > software to peo

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Matt Liotta
EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:22 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > > If I were you I would contact a product manager directly about this > subject. > > And I would not recommend it. > > Jesse Noller > [

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Joshua Miller
Yeah, I'd be willing to purchase a development copy for a reasonable fee, I'm sure others would too. Joshua Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 3:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Wher

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Matt Liotta
ember 05, 2002 12:40 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > > Matt > > Are you talking about a ported Free Developer version (for a > conveniencefee)? > > Are you talking about a Full Enterprise version with interface to a > real web server

Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Dick Applebaum
Matt Are you talking about a ported Free Developer version (for a conveniencefee)? Are you talking about a Full Enterprise version with interface to a real web server such as Apache. If you could do the former, you could charge a convenience charge-- the user would save hours of time ($nn),

Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Dick Applebaum
Thanks, Jesse --- now, Matt's sure to do it! ;^)> Dick On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 12:22 PM, Jesse Noller wrote: > If I were you I would contact a product manager directly about this > subject. > > And I would not recommend it. > _

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Jesse Noller
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:46 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > > This does make me wonder. I know we are individuals aren't allowed to > redistribute CFMX, so we can't repackage the Linux version into an OS X > version. However,

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Matt Liotta
Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:30 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > > Do you have access to a linux machine? > > Jesse Noller > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Macromedia Server Development > Unix/Linux "special guy" > > "B

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Jesse Noller
GIR > -Original Message- > From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:01 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > > I have Linux Mandrake 8.0 for PPC? Will it work from there? Otherwise > I'

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Joshua Miller
e- > From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > > Out of curiosity, where did you get the version of CFMX you run on OSX > daily? Did you build it yourself using

Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Dick Applebaum
ot; > > "But I ned tacos! I need them or I will > explode! That happens to me sometimes!" -GIR > >> -Original Message- >> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:57 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Sub

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Jesse Noller
r [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > > Out of curiosity, where did you get the version of CFMX you run on OSX > daily? Did you build it yourself using Dick's method or is there

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Joshua Miller
22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 08:15 , Jesse Noller wrote: > No, I was the only one from Macromedia who commented. The users who > feel strongly about the subject would obviously say yes. Well, I commented too. I run CFM

Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 08:15 , Jesse Noller wrote: > No, I was the only one from Macromedia who commented. The users who > feel strongly about the subject would obviously say yes. Well, I commented too. I run CFMX on OSX day-in, day-out and do all my development on it. But. As

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Jesse Noller
02 11:52 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > > Agreed, I do appreciate your input on the matter. > > Although we disagree on the subject I do appreciate your addressing it > with real information rather than "We'll look into it". &g

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Joshua Miller
ler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux] > we MUST make revenue, and we must cater to the largest "slice" Jesse, In case n

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Jesse Noller
> In case no one mentioned it before, or you missed it... > > Thanks very much for addressing the reality of the porting situation in a > logical manner rather than just blowing it off or ignoring the topic. So > nice to see things addressed head-on and logically rather than sugar- > coated > and

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Ken Wilson
> we MUST make revenue, and we must cater to the largest "slice" Jesse, In case no one mentioned it before, or you missed it... Thanks very much for addressing the reality of the porting situation in a logical manner rather than just blowing it off or ignoring the topic. So nice to see things

RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]

2002-09-05 Thread Jesse Noller
> I read the thread, it appeared you were the only one who said NO while > everyone else said they'd love to see it, there were viable ways to do > it and everyone agreed they'd love to see it run on Mac. Your math isn't > disputable, although $5k per machine for a Mac is a bit high - unless > you