-- jon
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
I'm sorry, but nothing -- Windows, Mac, Solaris, etc -- can touch the
value and performance offered by Linu
On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 07:47 , Joshua Miller wrote:
> I don't think it's completely scientific to assume that your company
> is the norm. Our company has 300 computers and about 100 of
> them are Macs ... so with your logic applied here, one out of every
> three computers is a Mac - that
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> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:01 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>
> What I was getting at was that a lot more people would use Mac
> hardware if they could run the things they want. I would love to
> setup some
What I was getting at was that a lot more people would use Mac
hardware if they could run the things they want. I would love to
setup some XServers for our application hosting, but since CF
doesn't run on it, it would be a foolish purchase. I know there are
other things that do run on Mac, but
What I was getting at was that a lot more people would use Mac
hardware if they could run the things they want. I would love to
setup some XServers for our application hosting, but since CF
doesn't run on it, it would be a foolish purchase. I know there are
other things that do run on Mac, but
rom: "Joshua Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:22 PM
>Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>
>
>> Because ColdFusion doesn't run on it - it's a catch 22 huh?
>>
On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 09:57 , Joshua Miller wrote:
> Out of curiosity, where did you get the version of CFMX you run on OSX
> daily? Did you build it yourself using Dick's method or is there another
> way to do it?
I have three laptops: Windows 2000, Mac OS X and Linux RH 7.2. What I
Nahh, Matt is his own person. We disagree all the time.
Of course, it could be schizophrenia setting in.
-jesse
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From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux
day, September 05, 2002 2:08 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>>
>> Fortunately "people Matt knows" is not a universal standard for
>> determining
>> if something is worth while.
>>
>>
>> -Original
sday, September 05, 2002 2:08 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>
> Fortunately "people Matt knows" is not a universal standard for
> determining
> if something is worth while.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Lio
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Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> Because ColdFusion doesn't run on it - it's a catch 22 huh?
>
> Joshua Miller
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> -Original Message-
&
pment
> Unix/Linux "special guy"
>
> "But I ned tacos! I need them or I will
> explode! That happens to me sometimes!" -GIR
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 05,
> > > I think that this would a natural for anyone considering
> > > hosting on a Mac Server.
> >
> > Yeah it would, but who is thinking about hosting a Mac
> > server? No one I know.
>
> Because ColdFusion doesn't run on it - it's a catch 22 huh?
No, not really - there are plenty of other app
Because ColdFusion doesn't run on it - it's a catch 22 huh?
Joshua Miller
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-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> I think th
Fortunately "people Matt knows" is not a universal standard for determining
if something is worth while.
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>
> I think that this would a natural for anyone considering hosting on a
> Mac Server.
>
Yeah it would, but who is thinking about hosting a Mac server? No one I
know.
-Matt
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On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 01:12 PM, Matt Liotta wrote:
> Well I am pretty sure I could do it, but I would of course have to have
> my lawyers look over everything and discuss it with Macromedia. It
> really has nothing to do with my business as I don't expect to sell my
> software to peo
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> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>
> If I were you I would contact a product manager directly about this
> subject.
>
> And I would not recommend it.
>
> Jesse Noller
> [
Yeah, I'd be willing to purchase a development copy for a reasonable
fee, I'm sure others would too.
Joshua Miller
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From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 3:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Wher
ember 05, 2002 12:40 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>
> Matt
>
> Are you talking about a ported Free Developer version (for a
> conveniencefee)?
>
> Are you talking about a Full Enterprise version with interface to a
> real web server
Matt
Are you talking about a ported Free Developer version (for a
conveniencefee)?
Are you talking about a Full Enterprise version with interface to a
real web server such as Apache.
If you could do the former, you could charge a convenience charge-- the
user would save hours of time ($nn),
Thanks, Jesse --- now, Matt's sure to do it! ;^)>
Dick
On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 12:22 PM, Jesse Noller wrote:
> If I were you I would contact a product manager directly about this
> subject.
>
> And I would not recommend it.
>
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> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:46 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>
> This does make me wonder. I know we are individuals aren't allowed to
> redistribute CFMX, so we can't repackage the Linux version into an OS X
> version. However,
Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:30 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>
> Do you have access to a linux machine?
>
> Jesse Noller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Macromedia Server Development
> Unix/Linux "special guy"
>
> "B
GIR
> -Original Message-
> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:01 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>
> I have Linux Mandrake 8.0 for PPC? Will it work from there? Otherwise
> I'
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> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>
> Out of curiosity, where did you get the version of CFMX you run on OSX
> daily? Did you build it yourself using
ot;
>
> "But I ned tacos! I need them or I will
> explode! That happens to me sometimes!" -GIR
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:57 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Sub
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> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>
> Out of curiosity, where did you get the version of CFMX you run on OSX
> daily? Did you build it yourself using Dick's method or is there
22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 08:15 , Jesse Noller wrote:
> No, I was the only one from Macromedia who commented. The users
who
> feel strongly about the subject would obviously say yes.
Well, I commented too. I run CFM
On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 08:15 , Jesse Noller wrote:
> No, I was the only one from Macromedia who commented. The users who
> feel strongly about the subject would obviously say yes.
Well, I commented too. I run CFMX on OSX day-in, day-out and do all my
development on it. But. As
02 11:52 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
>
> Agreed, I do appreciate your input on the matter.
>
> Although we disagree on the subject I do appreciate your addressing it
> with real information rather than "We'll look into it".
&g
ler
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-Original Message-
From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> we MUST make revenue, and we must cater to the largest "slice"
Jesse,
In case n
> In case no one mentioned it before, or you missed it...
>
> Thanks very much for addressing the reality of the porting situation in a
> logical manner rather than just blowing it off or ignoring the topic. So
> nice to see things addressed head-on and logically rather than sugar-
> coated
> and
> we MUST make revenue, and we must cater to the largest "slice"
Jesse,
In case no one mentioned it before, or you missed it...
Thanks very much for addressing the reality of the porting situation in a
logical manner rather than just blowing it off or ignoring the topic. So
nice to see things
> I read the thread, it appeared you were the only one who said NO while
> everyone else said they'd love to see it, there were viable ways to do
> it and everyone agreed they'd love to see it run on Mac. Your math isn't
> disputable, although $5k per machine for a Mac is a bit high - unless
> you
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