RE: cflogin and load balancing

2006-05-25 Thread Mark A Kruger
Dave, Do you mean when using NLBS (the windows clustering solution)? I was under the impression that it could not do this. -Mark -Original Message- From: Dave Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 6:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cflogin and load balancing

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-05-24 Thread Dave Ross
Win2k3 will do sticky sessions when clustered using NLB -Dave >A hardware load balancer that provides for sticky sessions will work, >if you can afford it. > >On 3/23/06, wolf2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >-- >CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: >http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~~~

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-05-24 Thread dcooper
Just to complete this thread, since it's been linked to by several folks: One customer in particular had issues ad we walked them through their code issues. In particular, the following problems were found that prevented CFLOGIN working in a clustered environment: - There are nested cflogin ta

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-28 Thread Douglas Knudsen
nope and nope. I've setup JAAS in JRun, seems to work fine. In fact I setup a serverwide SSO solution using JAAS where CF can interface with it simply. DK On 3/28/06, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't cflogin already based on JAAS? The CF (or indeed JRun) > implementation just happe

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-28 Thread Andy Allan
Isn't cflogin already based on JAAS? The CF (or indeed JRun) implementation just happens to be botched? Andy On 28/03/06, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been wondering why the CF team has not switched over to using > J2EE security. A rewrite of cflogin code that can use JAAS w

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-27 Thread Douglas Knudsen
I've been wondering why the CF team has not switched over to using J2EE security. A rewrite of cflogin code that can use JAAS would be just swell and allow integration with non CF J2EE products without messing with web.xml files and such, eh? DK On 3/27/06, wolf2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-27 Thread wolf2k5
On 3/26/06, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It doesn't work that way. Since your CFLOGINUSER call is inside a CFLOGIN > call, that CFLOGIN call *won't* run when the second server sees your > authentication cookie because CFLOGIN only runs when you are *not* > authenticated. Actually,

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-27 Thread wolf2k5
On 3/26/06, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And one more thing... SSL really doesn't matter because you're not going to > use it everywhere on your site, only in some places, so everywhere else that > doesn't use SSL is still exposed. The whole application will use HTTPS. Regards. ~~

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-26 Thread Adam Churvis
usion Developers at ProductivityEnhancement.com - Original Message - From: Jochem van Dieten To: CF-Talk Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: Re: cflogin and load balancing Adam Churvis wrote: > It doesn't work that way. Since your CFLOGINUSER call is inside a CFLOG

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-26 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Adam Churvis wrote: > It doesn't work that way. Since your CFLOGINUSER call is inside a CFLOGIN > call, that CFLOGIN call *won't* run when the second server sees your > authentication cookie because CFLOGIN only runs when you are *not* > authenticated. So what you do is assign one standard rol

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-26 Thread Adam Churvis
ement.com - Original Message - From: Adam Churvis To: CF-Talk Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 1:18 PM Subject: Re: cflogin and load balancing And one more thing... SSL really doesn't matter because you're not going to use it everywhere on your site, only in some pla

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-26 Thread Adam Churvis
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Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-26 Thread Adam Churvis
Subject: Re: cflogin and load balancing On 3/24/06, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I'm not mistaken, *authorization* (not authentication) can't work across multiple CF servers -- clustered or not -- because there's no mechanism for specifying *roles* on an

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-25 Thread wolf2k5
On 3/24/06, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I'm not mistaken, *authorization* (not authentication) can't work across > multiple CF servers -- clustered or not -- because there's no mechanism for > specifying *roles* on any computer other than the one on which CFLOGINUSER > was execu

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-24 Thread Adam Churvis
training in C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers at ProductivityEnhancement.com - Original Message - From: wolf2k5 To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: Re: cflogin and load balancing On 3/23/06, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-24 Thread wolf2k5
On 3/23/06, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ColdFusion Server is broken with respect to the CFLOGIN security framework > working on a clustered system with failover. The reason is that the > authentication cookie contains the authentication information but not any > authorization (roles)

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-24 Thread wolf2k5
On 3/23/06, wolf2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I still wonder why the cflogin cookie includes the full login info > (username/password base64 encoded), what does it need to then? I stand corrected again! I did further testing and the cflogin/cfloginuser code will automatically login the use

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-24 Thread wolf2k5
On 3/23/06, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have the username and password, why don't you log him in > yourself? What do you mean? Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:236118

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-23 Thread Jochem van Dieten
wolf2k5 wrote: > > I take this back: I did better testing and the user is NOT > automatically logged into the second server. > > Basically there is a cflogin limitation with simple DNS round robin > load balancing (no clustering) on multiple web servers: the login > session isn't shared between t

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-23 Thread Adam Churvis
: "wolf2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: Re: cflogin and load balancing > On 3/23/06, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, I didn't get around to testing this, but I would have really bee

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-23 Thread wolf2k5
On 3/23/06, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I didn't get around to testing this, but I would have really been > surprised if this were true. But I still wonder why the cflogin cookie includes the full login info (username/password base64 encoded), what does it need to then? > Build

RE: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-23 Thread Dave Watts
> I take this back: I did better testing and the user is NOT > automatically logged into the second server. Yeah, I didn't get around to testing this, but I would have really been surprised if this were true. > What would be the better/easiest way of managing a logins on > a load balanced appli

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-23 Thread James Holmes
A hardware load balancer that provides for sticky sessions will work, if you can afford it. On 3/23/06, wolf2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/22/06, wolf2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To reply to my own question: it looks like that the cflogin cookie > > includes the username/password info

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-23 Thread wolf2k5
On 3/22/06, wolf2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To reply to my own question: it looks like that the cflogin cookie > includes the username/password info (I think it's base64 encoded), > when jumping from one server to another, the user is already logged > into the second server. I take this back:

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-22 Thread wolf2k5
On 3/22/06, wolf2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now I'm hitting a weird issue with cflogin, someontimes after using my > app for a few time, I'm logged out automatically, I cannot reproduce > the issue in a consistent way, but it happens once in a while. BTW, I'm on ColdFusion MX 6.1 Updater (6,1

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-22 Thread wolf2k5
On 3/21/06, wolf2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's exactly what I'm wondering: does the cflogin cookie include all > the info (username/password) needed to (automatically) > (re)authenticate the user on a server if he previously authenticated > on another server? To reply to my own question:

Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-21 Thread wolf2k5
On 3/21/06, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you use round-robin DNS, it is unlikely that the user will be sent to one > server, then another. When the user attempts to connect initially, the DNS > server will issue one IP address, and that IP address will be cached for > some time by the

RE: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-21 Thread Dave Watts
> The user will have to login, before being able to use any > feature of the application. > > I was thinking to use the CF security framework (cflogin, > etc.) to manage authentication and authorization for my > application. > > Most probably the application will reside on several web > serve