Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-19 Thread Deanna Schneider
it doesn't really exist, and this seems like it would be one of those cases. Thoughts? -Deanna - Original Message - From: "Dwayne Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: Re: SOT: OO Des

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Dwayne Cole
all. It's a university. What can I say. > >-d > > >----- Original Message - >From: "Dwayne Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 3:51 PM >Subject: Re: SOT: OO Design >

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Deanna Schneider
provided services or goods that meet the whole budget, and other times we go over and don't bill at all. It's a university. What can I say. -d - Original Message - From: "Dwayne Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tues

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Dwayne Cole
What is a consumable? Dwayne Cole, MS in MIS, MBA Florida A&M University Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 850-591-0212 "It can truly be said that nothing happens until there is vision. But it is equally true that a vision with no underlying sense of purpose, no calling, is just a good id

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Ben Doom
> Okay, so if I go with a two object model (grossly simplified, of course), > then I have a "consumables" object as an attribute of my task object? Is > that correct? So, if I instantiate a consumables object inside my task > object, I can then call the method "getallConsumables" and get all the >

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Deanna Schneider
ted task. (An action page with a cfquery.) Sample object-centric interpretation anyone? - Original Message - From: "Ben Doom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:36 PM Subject: Re: SOT: OO Design > Ho

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Deanna Schneider
True, and that's what I've been doing for, oh 5 years now...that other stuff. ;) -Deanna - Original Message - From: "Nick de Voil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:54 PM Subject: Re: SOT

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Nick de Voil
Deanna > Okay, so I was following along, but then you throw this out there. Huh? I > thought that we're all supposed to start "thinking OO" to fully leverage > CFC's. Am I wrong here? No, of course you're not wrong - but there's more to CF than CFC's :-) Nick [Todays Threads] [This Message]

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Ben Doom
Holy crap, was that a long and remarkably well thought-out post. > You would never dream (normally) of having an entity (hence table) to > model a collection of items Perhaps that's why I wasn't seeing what he meant.  I'm so used to objects being over here and relational stuff being over ther

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Deanna Schneider
> But to be honest, if I was using CF, OO design methodology would not be at > the forefront of my mind. Okay, so I was following along, but then you throw this out there. Huh? I thought that we're all supposed to start "thinking OO" to fully leverage CFC's. Am I wrong here? -Deanna, procedural a

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Nick de Voil
> I'm not sure how 3 objects makes this any more likely than 2 objects. I think Dwayne is referring to the fact that, once you've gone beyond having one table or object class to model each real-world "thing", the criteria you apply in each method for discovering your other artefacts are quite diff

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Ben Doom
7;m wondering if I should do, yes. Or, if it works better to >  >> just have the two objects, with the task object having an array of >  >> consumable objects. >  >> -d >  >> >  >> - Original Message - >  >> From: "Dwayne Cole" <[EMAI

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Dwayne Cole
f >> consumable objects. >> -d >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dwayne Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:59 AM >> Subject: Re: SOT: OO D

RE: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Andy Ousterhout
task.  The 2 methods that you discussed are integral to performing this task and therefore below to the same object? Andy   -Original Message-   From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:07 AM   To: CF-Talk   Subject: Re: SOT: OO Design   That&

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Ben Doom
MAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:59 AM > Subject: Re: SOT: OO Design > >  > So are you thinking of creating three objects: a task object, a > consumable > object, consumableList object that acts

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Deanna Schneider
PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: SOT: OO Design > So are you thinking of creating three objects: a task object, a consumable object, consumableList object that acts like a associative entity? > > > Dwayne Cole, MS in MIS, MBA > Florida A&M Univer

Re: SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Dwayne Cole
So are you thinking of creating three objects: a task object, a consumable object, consumableList object that acts like a associative entity?    Dwayne Cole, MS in MIS, MBA Florida A&M University Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 850-591-0212 "It can truly be said that nothing happens unt

SOT: OO Design

2003-11-18 Thread Deanna Schneider
Hi Folks, I'm trying to get my head around OO design for CF and I have a ton of questions, of course. I'll try to keep them limited, as they're sort of off-topic (though not entirely, because whatever I have to design I have to build in CF). Here's my first basic question: When you're designing an