Re: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 16:30, Matt Quackenbush wrote: Hmm... okay, so the issue that is being referred to here is when the login check is handled AFTER that link is displayed? No, no, no - it's much worse. The Google accelerator thing looks at the page loaded in the browser (which

Re: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 16:51, Matt Quackenbush wrote: main question now is: what is considered the best antidote for such a problem. Since I didn't know what it was, I obviously don't use web Don't use HTTP GET (links) for things that have side effects use them for views. Use HTTP POST

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Al Musella, DPM
You hit it.. it was the web accelerator. I now know that I should not let a simple clicked link change anything. Both of these sites were written in cold fusion version 2 and 3 when I didn't know better:) WAY too many pages to go back and change them now. I thought since it was password

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Matt Quackenbush
- From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Strange security problem with googlebot You hit it.. it was the web accelerator. I now know that I should not let a simple clicked link change anything. Both of these sites were

Re: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 15:50, Matt Quackenbush wrote: Okay, call me silly, but what kind of code exactly can cause this problem? a href=/site/secure/admin/user.cfm?action=del?id=2436Delete this user/a -- Tom Chiverton Helping to assertively utilize leading-edge relationships

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Matt Quackenbush
the appropriate credentials, and b) how a bot would get past a login/credential check. Thanks, Matt -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Strange security problem with googlebot On Tuesday 10

Re: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Matt Quackenbush wrote: Hmm... okay, so the issue that is being referred to here is when the login check is handled AFTER that link is displayed? I guess I'm still a bit confused, because I can't understand a) why any such link would be displayed to anyone (or any bot) without them first

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Dave Watts
Hmm... okay, so the issue that is being referred to here is when the login check is handled AFTER that link is displayed? I guess I'm still a bit confused, because I can't understand a) why any such link would be displayed to anyone (or any bot) without them first being logged-in and

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Matt Quackenbush
, 2006 10:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Strange security problem with googlebot Hmm... okay, so the issue that is being referred to here is when the login check is handled AFTER that link is displayed? I guess I'm still a bit confused, because I can't understand a) why any such link

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Dave Watts
Thanks for the reply. I guess I first should've gone and checked to see what 'web accelerator' was, and then I might have understood. I guess my main question now is: what is considered the best antidote for such a problem. Since I didn't know what it was, I obviously don't use web

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Ian Skinner
Yes, since the Web Accelerator only makes GET requests. In HTTP, GET requests shouldn't make changes; only POST requests should do that. Dave I am just playing with this in my head. Would a form with method=get be affected by the accelerator, or only anchors with get parameters built in to

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Dave Watts
I am just playing with this in my head. Would a form with method=get be affected by the accelerator, or only anchors with get parameters built in to the href parameter? I haven't used it, so I can only speculate. That said, I suspect that it only follows A tags. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-10 Thread Al Musella, DPM
Actually, in my defense:) the web accelerator is not supposed to follow a link that has a query parameter... and it worked correctly for a long time.. apparently a recent update to it introduced a bug where it IS following links with query parameters. I reported it to google. It

Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-09 Thread Al Musella, DPM
I don't know how this could possibly happen... on 2 of my websites, someone hacked into the admin areas and changed hundreds of things by clicking links. I log every action taken, along with the ip address of who did it and traced back the ip to googlebot. I was using IIS basic

RE: Strange security problem with googlebot

2006-10-09 Thread Dave Watts
I don't know how this could possibly happen... on 2 of my websites, someone hacked into the admin areas and changed hundreds of things by clicking links. I log every action taken, along with the ip address of who did it and traced back the ip to googlebot. I was using IIS basic