Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-04 Thread Claude Schneegans
What about installing a user agent switcher add on for firefox? this way you can sort of be testing in IE, Excuse a may be silly question, but how just switching the agent can help debugging? Firefox will make Javascript believe it is IE, but will it act as IE?

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Claude Schneegans schneeg...@internetique.com wrote: What about installing a user agent switcher add on for firefox? this way you can sort of be testing in IE, Excuse a may be silly question, but how just switching the agent can help debugging? Firefox

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-04 Thread Dave Watts
I've not tried it. My assumption would be that if Firefox is rendering it as if it were being rendered in IE, then the JS would behave as if it were IE. Seems like a logical conclusion. But no.. I've not tried it to be able to say with 100% certainty. Changing the user agent does not

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I've not tried it. My assumption would be that if Firefox is rendering it as if it were being rendered in IE, then the JS would behave as if it were IE. Seems like a logical conclusion. But no.. I've not tried it

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-04 Thread Claude Schneegans
Ah, gotcha. I was under the impression it would render as if it were the specified browser. If it was so, why would Mozilla not ALWAYS support IE functions? What would be the advantage of switching the user agent otherwise? Very poor indeed.

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-04 Thread Dave Watts
What would be the advantage of switching the user agent otherwise? I can see if maybe a particular site only supported a given browser... would there be others? Just curious. You can use it to tell the server to generate code for another browser, and there are all kinds of uses for that. I

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: What would be the advantage of switching the user agent otherwise? I can see if maybe a particular site only supported a given browser... would there be others? Just curious. You can use it to tell the server to

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-04 Thread Dave Watts
...and now I'm lost :) I'd normally assume that by don't work you mean they don't render properly. But with that being the crux of this particular tangent, I'm assuming that's not what you mean. What server side code would be poorly-written enough to not work based on the browser? I've

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-04 Thread Gerald Guido
It is common to have to have 2 or 3 versions of CSS to accommodate for browser inconsistencies. A friend of mine does *nothing but* UI design and he says that he usually has at least 2 versions of CSS. So that plugin that Charlie showed me allowed me to see the the IE Stylesheet in FF and use

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: ...and now I'm lost :) I'd normally assume that by don't work you mean they don't render properly. But with that being the crux of this particular tangent, I'm assuming that's not what you mean. What server side code

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-03 Thread Richard White
thanks for the recommendation... i have downloaded it and it tells me what line of code an error is on but it doesn't allow me to view that line of code, does it just alert you to the line or is there a way, like firebug, to get more details on the line and view the code etc... thanks (sorry

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-03 Thread Charlie Griefer
i haven't really used it much... but really nothing holds a candle to firebug. What about installing a user agent switcher add on for firefox? this way you can sort of be testing in IE, yet have firebug available? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:16

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-03 Thread Richard White
WOW... this is very powerful thanks Charlie, seems like a perfect answer :) i haven't really used it much... but really nothing holds a candle to firebug. What about installing a user agent switcher add on for firefox? this way you can sort of be testing in IE, yet have firebug available?

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-03 Thread Wil Genovese
Question: Have you tried using a javascript library that hides and handles the cross browser issues behind the scenes? JQuery is the hot one these days, but other like Prototype, YUI and others are available and usually have excellent documentation. These libraries can really take the headache

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-03 Thread Gerald Guido
He only thing I have seen is the IE debugger in Aptana pro ($99). I use the FOSS version of Aptana and absolutely love it. http://www.aptana.com/docs/index.php/Installing_the_IE_debugger G! On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Richard White rich...@j7is.co.uk wrote: thanks for the

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-03 Thread Gerald Guido
http://www.debugbar.com/?langage=en Free for personal use. I find that debugging JS to be a very personal issue. This is very handy as well http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Richard White rich...@j7is.co.uk wrote: hi, sorry for the non-cf

javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-03 Thread Richard White
hi, sorry for the non-cf question but does anyone know a good opensource JS debugger for IE, that is similar to FireBug for FireFox, and is not the script debugger in IE (as i cannot get it to show on my browser) thanks richard

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-03 Thread Gerald Guido
Nice find Charlie. Thanx. I am in cross browser hell right now Someone please kill me. G! On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.comwrote: i haven't really used it much... but really nothing holds a candle to firebug. What about installing a user agent

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-03 Thread Charlie Griefer
http://www.debugbar.com/ http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/CompanionJS/HomePage On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Richard White rich...@j7is.co.uk wrote: hi, sorry for the non-cf question but does anyone know a good opensource JS debugger for IE, that is similar to FireBug for FireFox, and is

Re: javascript debugger for ie

2009-02-03 Thread Richard White
no i havent but will look into this, thanks i have been meaning to look into JQuery for some time and know that it will help us out if we do so this is the perfect excuse! thanks Question: Have you tried using a javascript library that hides and handles the cross browser issues behind the