[freenet-chat] Never Ceases to Amaze Me...

2001-05-07 Thread Mr . Bad
...what gets on Slashdot about Freenet: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/08/0052200&mode=thread FreeSQL seems like a cool project and all, no mistake. It's got to be the most ambitious application built on Freenet so far (notwithstanding the IRC program -- you can drop a chat mes

RE: [freenet-chat] Artistic Remuneration

2001-05-07 Thread carried grandma
Laughable subject matter - but here's my worth of pension funds concerning W. Eric C. Ferguson's comments >Are either of these examples >'bad' or 'worthless' because they do not occur with your musical preference? + No examples are bad or worthless but usually what we have a problem with is forc

Re: [freenet-chat] Artistic Remuneration

2001-05-07 Thread David McNab
Wow! What an enthusiastic defense of capitalism! My only concern is: v I had a discussion with a local radio DJ about local music once. She insisted that I should support local artists. They were apparently worthy of my support just because they were local and had no steady contra

RE: [freenet-chat] Artistic Remuneration

2001-05-07 Thread W. Eric C. Ferguson
-- Music makes people better human beings. NOT pop music , not commercial music. Serious art music. Not your crap Madonnas, Michael Jacksons, Stings, Eminems, Smarties, House, Garbage, Paul Ankas, Frank Sinatras, Perry Comos, I could go on and offend a lot of people. What I'm talking about is

Re: [freenet-chat] Remuneration for artists via Freenet...etc.

2001-05-07 Thread David McNab
From: "Travis Bemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Can you THINK outside of your Libertarian/"anarcho"capitalist box for >a second?! Anarchism (not that "anarcho"capitalism shit, which really >isn't anarchism) is socialist, but does not use government (socialism >is worker control of the means of produc

Re: [freenet-chat] Remuneration for artists via Freenet...etc.

2001-05-07 Thread Mark J. Roberts
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Travis Bemann wrote: > Anarchism (not that "anarcho"capitalism shit, which really isn't > anarchism) is socialist, [...] Obviously. Property requires a government to enforce it (anything less is barbarism). But who said he was an "anarcho"capitalist? -- "...it must be held

Re: [freenet-chat] Remuneration for artists via Freenet...etc.

2001-05-07 Thread Travis Bemann
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 01:48:44PM -0400, Mikus 29 wrote: > >From: "Mark J. Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >How can you maintain equality in a system where goods and services are > >freely given without some means of keeping track of how many goods and > >services each person has received? >

Re: [freenet-chat] Remuneration for artists via Freenet...etc.

2001-05-07 Thread Tavin Cole
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 04:42:09PM -0400, Mark J. Roberts wrote: > This doesn't address my question. Without a system of currency, how can I, > a carpenter, know if my doing free work for customer X would give him more > than his fair share? Why must Homo Economicus enslave us all? -- # tavin

Re: [freenet-chat] Artistic Remuneration

2001-05-07 Thread David McNab
"Times... they are a changin'...   [the remainder of this email message has been deleted due to violation of the Digital Copyright Millennium Act. The author of this message has been taken offline and ordered to pay Bob Dylan $72million in punitive damages and compensation for pain and suffer

Re: [freenet-chat] Remuneration for artists via Freenet...etc.

2001-05-07 Thread Mark J. Roberts
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Travis Bemann wrote: > > To argue in favor of what you feel is right is good. But to enforce what > > you feel is right upon others through violence is not. > > And WHERE did I say that I'd use violence to force no currency on > everyone else? Um, "what we need to do is to de

[freenet-chat] Interview on Tech TV

2001-05-07 Thread David McNab
At 4pm today (US Pacific Time), I will be interviewed on Tech TV (San Franscisco) about the Freenet client FreeWeb, and its ramifications etc.   Sorry about the short notice, but final confirmation only came through last minute.   If you can't get the station, or you miss the interview, it s

Re: [freenet-chat] Remuneration for artists via Freenet...etc.

2001-05-07 Thread Travis Bemann
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 07:29:00AM -0400, Mark J. Roberts wrote: > On Mon, 7 May 2001, Travis Bemann wrote: > > > > Because efficient trade cannot exist without currency. You are the only > > > person I've ever met who thinks it's just fine to make everyone else live > > > according to your whims

[freenet-chat] Artistic Remuneration

2001-05-07 Thread Stephen Bennett
Well, I can't wait to read the whole thing.  Just to say that I am an artist.  I am a musician.  I chose to be an artist by the time I finally reached the age of 5 years.  I chose to be a musician later, at the much advanced age of 8 years.  I have, on the anniversary of the Sunday back in 1

Re: [freenet-chat] Remuneration for artists via Freenet...etc.

2001-05-07 Thread Mikus 29
>From: "Mark J. Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >How can you maintain equality in a system where goods and services are >freely given without some means of keeping track of how many goods and >services each person has received? Who says there must be equality? That leads to socialistic government

Re: [freenet-chat] Remuneration for artists via Freenet...etc.

2001-05-07 Thread Mark J. Roberts
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Travis Bemann wrote: > > Because efficient trade cannot exist without currency. You are the only > > person I've ever met who thinks it's just fine to make everyone else live > > according to your whims. > > Geez. No, I am not the only person who subscribes to the view that >

Re: [freenet-chat] Remuneration for artists via Freenet...etc.

2001-05-07 Thread Travis Bemann
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 06:25:54AM -0400, Mark J. Roberts wrote: > On Mon, 7 May 2001, Travis Bemann wrote: > > > Why do we need secure, anonymous digital currency?! Why do we need > > currency at all?! > > Because efficient trade cannot exist without currency. You are the only > person I've ev

Re: [freenet-chat] Remuneration for artists via Freenet...etc.

2001-05-07 Thread Mark J. Roberts
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Travis Bemann wrote: > Why do we need secure, anonymous digital currency?! Why do we need > currency at all?! Because efficient trade cannot exist without currency. You are the only person I've ever met who thinks it's just fine to make everyone else live according to your w

Re: [freenet-chat] Remuneration for artists via Freenet...etc.

2001-05-07 Thread David McNab
> Let me be more clear: what I mean to express is my personal > opinion Me Bad makes some very articulate and persuasive arguments here. As a musician in the early 80's, I had a screaming fight with a recording engineer. He argued that popularity was the main measurement of quality for music.