Re: [freenet-chat] Interesting post on /.

2001-09-17 Thread g'o'tz ohnesorge
"Mr. Smith" wrote: > Now if the hypothetical government monitoring could > actually help catch terrorists then I'd be in more of > a moral quandry. While the famous saying "He who > trades freedom for safety deserved neither" comes to > mind, lack of privacy isn't necessarily lack of > freedom.

Re: [freenet-chat] Interesting post on /.

2001-09-17 Thread Mr. Smith
--- Stefan Reich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question: would you be willing > to trade your personal privacy for maybe some > further measure of security > from terrorists? Would you grant the people running > Carnivore greater rights > into your life in order to perhaps prevent more > events lik

Re: [freenet-chat] Interesting post on /.

2001-09-15 Thread Travis Bemann
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 04:09:29PM -0700, Jim Carrico wrote: > > > > > there's no mention of this in any mainstream media - I guess it must > >> be 'unpatriotic' to criticize anything that the US gov. does, has > >> done, or will do. > > > >I dont think thats true. A good many people already

Re: [freenet-chat] Interesting post on /.

2001-09-15 Thread Jim Carrico
> > > there's no mention of this in any mainstream media - I guess it must >> be 'unpatriotic' to criticize anything that the US gov. does, has >> done, or will do. > >I dont think thats true. A good many people already knew about CIA training >islamic militants to fight communist powers in A

Re: [freenet-chat] Interesting post on /.

2001-09-15 Thread coderman
Jim Carrico wrote: > > Osama bin Laden comes home to roost: http://www.msnbc.com/news/190144.asp > Salon article on "blowback": > http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/12/blowback/ > > there's no mention of this in any mainstream media - I guess it must > be 'unpatriotic' to criticize anythi

Re: [freenet-chat] Interesting post on /.

2001-09-15 Thread Jim Carrico
>Stefan Reich wrote: > >> "Here's an interesting issue and one that is well to debate on Slashdot. It >> is said on just about all the major news networks that there has been an >> intelligence breakdown. That the terrorists use sophisticated encryption >> measures and that our intelligence ag

Re: [freenet-chat] Interesting post on /.

2001-09-14 Thread g'o'tz ohnesorge
Stefan Reich wrote: > "Here's an interesting issue and one that is well to debate on Slashdot. It > is said on just about all the major news networks that there has been an > intelligence breakdown. That the terrorists use sophisticated encryption > measures and that our intelligence agencies are

[freenet-chat] Interesting post on /.

2001-09-14 Thread Stefan Reich
"Here's an interesting issue and one that is well to debate on Slashdot. It is said on just about all the major news networks that there has been an intelligence breakdown. That the terrorists use sophisticated encryption measures and that our intelligence agencies are under-funded and don't have