Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-20 Thread info
Hi, Well after some reading and brainstorming I think I will amalgamate several of the ideas mentioned here, so I sincerely thank all who gave their suggestions/warnings/opinions. The AV Linux ISO Image is a unique non-commercial presentation media so I will stop calling it non-GPL since that evok

Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-06 Thread Daniel Jircik
Well like everyone else who has chimed in on this I am not a lawyer either. Since you are basically doing a Debian remaster look at the model they use for free and non free repositories. I think what's throwing smoke in everyone's eyes is your wording, a "non gpl linux distribution" That sets off m

Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-06 Thread Frans de Boer
2), into GPL v3. Can anybody confirm this? Nicola > Subject: Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license > From: i...@bandshed.net > To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:29:33 -0700 > > Eeesh! > > Joining this list has been

Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-06 Thread info
Well then I'm in good company! Thanks for sharing that raffa! -GLEN > On 10/06/2011 11:29 PM, i...@bandshed.net wrote: >>...is everyone greeted with such 'hospitality'?...lol > > No, only special fellows in the same shoes as Cinelerra. :-) > Guess why Cinelerra is not included in Debian and Ubun

RE: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-06 Thread info
dy. > > I'd just like to add that I have doubts you can re-license the GPL > components (which are essentially Debian, so GPL v2), into GPL v3. > > Can anybody confirm this? > > Nicola > > > >> Subject: Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' lic

Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-06 Thread Raffaella Traniello
On 10/06/2011 11:29 PM, i...@bandshed.net wrote: ...is everyone greeted with such 'hospitality'?...lol No, only special fellows in the same shoes as Cinelerra. :-) Guess why Cinelerra is not included in Debian and Ubuntu? :-) Ciao! Raffaella PS: a hint to the answer: http://cinelerra.org/docs

RE: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-06 Thread Nicola Ferralis
m this? Nicola > Subject: Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license > From: i...@bandshed.net > To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:29:33 -0700 > > Eeesh! > > Joining this list has been both uncomfortable and educational at the same >

Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-06 Thread info
Eeesh! Joining this list has been both uncomfortable and educational at the same time...is everyone greeted with such 'hospitality'?...lol OK, so what about this: AV Linux goes GPL(3) and I issue a disclaimer statement declaring which EXACT packages are 'non-free' but come bundled with the ISO a

Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-06 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:41:21 -0700, wrote: but I was under the impression that any derived work could be licensed outside of the GPL provided the source code of the derived work was made available upon request. You may be confused with the "binary redistribution" clause of the GPLv2, which

RE: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-04 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Glen, Thanks again. Really, I didn't mean to bash, really just trying to understand. In fact your answer to Octavio sort of clarified the issue even further. Cheers, Nicola > Subject: RE: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license > From: i...@bandshed.net >

RE: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-04 Thread info
Hi Again, Well I'm not a lawyer either so we have something in common! I've been distributing AV Linux like this since 2007 and to be honest never have had this come up, I will have to scour the fine print a little closer but I was under the impression that any derived work could be licensed outs

Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-04 Thread info
Hi Octavio, No the tweaks are not to the source otherwise I'd be sure to share them here, unfortunately my cranium is a little too small to tackle the source code. The tweaks are basically in the packaging and on the LiveDVD. I have Cinelerra launch with a script and automatically finds and load

Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-04 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 10:41:12 -0700, wrote: I take a personal interest in it and have recently done a lot of behind the scenes configuration work to make easier for new users in the next AV Linux release. Hi! Did the above require changes to the source code? -- Octavio. ___

Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-04 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 10:41:12 -0700, wrote: I take a personal interest in it and have recently done a lot of behind the scenes configuration work to make easier for new users in the next AV Linux release. Hi! Have these tweaks needed any kind of source code modification? -- Octavio. __

RE: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-04 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Glen, Thanks for the clarifications. Although I am not a lawyer, I have doubts about the fact that the license in AV linux can be changed at the developer's convenience, since it still is derived work. The GPL specifically says that derived work qualifies for the GPL license itself. LGPL is mo