RE: Combining T1's into one pipe [7:46942]

2002-06-18 Thread Brunner Joseph
true- cef if the best for most situations, certainly at the 7500 and gsr levels where mlppp is a joke.. i m just saying for 2600 with 2 t's, also i have experienced lots of cef problems with NAT, which you would normally do on a little 2600. mlppp for me has not had these issues.. but i agree if y

RE: Combining T1's into one pipe [7:46942]

2002-06-18 Thread Frank Merrill
> Yes I would use mlppp and ios in the same sentence, as I have > been running it without a hitch on a 7200 for 6 months. also, > you guys are missing his point (t-1's to the internet) what ISP > is going to run > OSPF or EIGRP with a customer ? please. I don't see anything in the original post a

Re: Combining T1's into one pipe [7:46942]

2002-06-18 Thread nrf
""Brunner Joseph"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Yes I would use mlppp and ios in the same sentence, as I have been running > it without a hitch on a 7200 for 6 months. also, you guys are missing his > point (t-1's to the internet) what ISP is going to run > OSPF

RE: Combining T1's into one pipe [7:46942]

2002-06-18 Thread Brunner Joseph
Yes I would use mlppp and ios in the same sentence, as I have been running it without a hitch on a 7200 for 6 months. also, you guys are missing his point (t-1's to the internet) what ISP is going to run OSPF or EIGRP with a customer ? please. Maybe, if they managed the router, but he didnt say t

Re: Combining T1's into one pipe [7:46942]

2002-06-18 Thread nrf
I didn't say that all MPPP bundles were flaky. The majority are not. But on the whole, it seems that there is a greater chance of flakiness within bundles than in CEF implementations. When I say flakiness, it generally boils down to what you had said before - lots of overhead and buffering inv

Re: Combining T1's into one pipe [7:46942]

2002-06-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9/2002 09:04 AM Please respond to "nrf" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Combining T1's into one pipe [7:46942] Uh, really? You sure about that. >From my experience, when you're talking about IOS, you should never ever use the term

Re: Combining T1's into one pipe [7:46942]

2002-06-18 Thread Michael L. Williams
Okay. perhaps I don't monitor my bundles as close are y'all do, but we're running quite a few sites using multiple T1s bonded with MLPPP, and we don't have any stability problems (as far as dropping traffic and EIGRP neighbor changes, etc) that I'm aware of nrf, tell me more about what to

Re: Combining T1's into one pipe [7:46942]

2002-06-18 Thread Michael L. Williams
If you're running a dynamic routing protocol (i.e. RIP, IGRP, EIGRP, or OSPF), they should see the two T1s as equal cost paths and automatically do per-destination load balancing (if you're running CEF, then that can be per-packet, at least with EIGRP, but I would suspect the same no matter now th

RE: Combining T1's into one pipe [7:46942]

2002-06-18 Thread Brunner Joseph
its definately worth it.. combine multiple pipes at layer 2. I use MLPPP with my ISP and it rocks.. forget all those shaky stupid CEF and PER-PACKET configurations.. if you can get PPP going between your carrier and you, you can get it all going to one router on their side, then you should run MLP

Re: Combining T1's into one pipe [7:46942]

2002-06-18 Thread nrf
Uh, really? You sure about that. >From my experience, when you're talking about IOS, you should never ever use the terms MPPP and stable in the same sentence. I recommend CEF not because it's not flaky, because it is, but because it's a lot less flaky than Cisco's MPPP implementation. ""Brunn

Combining T1's into one pipe [7:46942]

2002-06-18 Thread Doug Korell
I have two point to point T1's that I'm thinking about combining (known as NxT1). Both connections are going through the same routers at each end (4700 and 2600). I found some information on Cisco's website but they mention that it can be complex and talk about alternatives. Is anyone else doing