ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-13 Thread Jack
Anyone know of a way to route Vlans over a WAN other than using Cisco ISL? I have customer with two sites, a 7204 on each site connected with a DS3 but Cisco says that his VLAN info can only be passed over Ethernet interfaces. He has a 6509 behind each router and the VLAN's are defined in those

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-13 Thread Mask Of Zorro
Good God Man! Why are you routing VLAN's over a WAN. What is the problem you are trying to solve??? Z >From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: ISL & VLANS between routers >D

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-13 Thread Jack
ve??? > >Z > > >>From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: ISL & VLANS between routers >>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:29:05 -0800 >> >>Anyone know of

RE: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-13 Thread Jim Dixon
e trying to solve??? > >Z > > >>From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: ISL & VLANS between routers >>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:29:05 -0800 >> >>Anyone

RE: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-13 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
gt;are trying to solve??? > >Z > > >>From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: ISL & VLANS between routers >>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:29:05 -0800 >> >>A

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-13 Thread Mask Of Zorro
issue, why even implement this? It may be possible to do it, but why is it a good idea? I mean, I *can* drink gasoline, but why should I? Z >From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: IS

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-13 Thread Jack
What the customer wants is to group users by the departments they work for and use VLANs to control access to certain services on the remote site. I would recommend ACL's but they are set on routing the VLAN info across the 2 sites. I like the idea of setting up 2 vlans with identical policies on

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-13 Thread Moe Tavakoli
#x27;t the issue, why even implement this? > > It may be possible to do it, but why is it a good > idea? I mean, I *can* > drink gasoline, but why should I? > > Z > > >From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-13 Thread Tony van Ree
over a WAN. What is the problem > you > >are trying to solve??? > > > >Z > > > > > >>From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: ISL

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-13 Thread Peter Van Oene
Juniper supports a feature called CCC (circuit cross connect) which essentially enables layer two technologies to span across WAN backbones via MPLS. This works with many layer two encapsulations including ppp, frame, ethernet/802.1q etc. This technique can provide the type of functionality y

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-17 Thread Mike Davis
All, >From the experience I have had in the campus networks, I have done both ISL/802.1Q over single fiber between buildings. I have always used a MLS with gigabit technology for this design. The use of vlans, from my understanding, is based on broadcast and the use of being able to centralize man

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-17 Thread Mike Davis
Sorry, thats acct being located in 3 different buildings not vlans. My point is the ability to do configurations etc virtual and centrally versus physically and distributed. thanks --- Peter Van Oene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Juniper supports a feature called CCC (circuit cross > connect) whi

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-17 Thread Groupstudy
Trunking requires at least 100mb speed. - Original Message - From: Mike Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 4:07 PM Subject: Re: ISL & VLANS between routers > All, > From the experience I have had in the campus networ

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-17 Thread Peter Van Oene
Your point is valid, however the original posted indicated that they needed to extend the broadcast domain over a wide area network and hoped to do it using 802.1q. Point to Point fiber, even though it may be long in some cases, doesn't infer the same characteristics as an IP WAN. Pete

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-18 Thread Gareth Hinton
--- > From: Mike Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 4:07 PM > Subject: Re: ISL & VLANS between routers > > > > All, > > From the experience I have had in the campus networks, > > I have done both

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-18 Thread Groupstudy
Go take another look at your setup... - Original Message - From: Gareth Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:04 AM Subject: Re: ISL & VLANS between routers > You sure it can't be done

RE: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-18 Thread Ryan Ngai Hon Kong
001 6:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISL & VLANS between routers You sure it can't be done at 10Mb? Pretty sure I've done it at 10Mb. ""Groupstudy"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL P

Re: ISL & VLANS between routers

2001-03-19 Thread Gareth Hinton
gt; wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Trunking requires at least 100mb speed. > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Mike Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTEC