Re[3]: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-16 Thread Karen E Young
If the Interface MTU field is larger than can be accepted without fragmentation, then the packet is rejected. No acknowledgement is sent and the behavior after that is dependent on the vendor. Usually it results in neighbors getting stuck in Exchange or ExStart. In any case, the adjacency will

Re[3]: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-16 Thread Karen E Young
Sorry, accidentally sent the message before I finished my response and DNS problems to boot... If the Interface MTU field is larger than can be accepted without fragmentation, then the packet is rejected. No acknowledgement is sent and the behavior after that is dependent on the vendor. Usually

RE: Re[3]: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-16 Thread Reimer, Fred
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 7:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[3]: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024] Sorry, accidentally sent the message before I finished my response and DNS problems to boot... If the Interface MTU field is larger than can be accepted without fragmentation

RE: Re[3]: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-16 Thread Zsombor Papp
Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 7:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[3]: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024] Sorry, accidentally sent the message before I finished my response and DNS problems to boot... If the Interface MTU field is larger than can be accepted

Re[3]: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-16 Thread Zsombor Papp
MTU is not an OSPF specific value. It would be rather strange if OSPF could adjust it dynamically to its liking. However, a vendor could choose to implement something that, after getting no response to DD packets, would decrease the packet size, How do you know you don't receive response due to

Re[2]: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-15 Thread Karen E Young
Comments inline... *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/12/2003 at 10:15 PM Hemingway wrote: Zsombor Papp wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:54 AM 7/12/2003 +, Hemingway wrote: hebn wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500

Re[2]: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-15 Thread Zsombor Papp
At 09:48 AM 7/15/2003 +, Karen E Young wrote: KY: According to the RFC (page 99) If the Interface MTU field in the Database Description packet indicates an IP datagram size that is larger than the router can accept on the receiving interface without fragmentation, the Database Description

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-12 Thread Hemingway
hebn wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes. how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed 1500 bytes(more than 122 links in one area)? I've browsed through the other responses, and I did not see this particular piece of

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-12 Thread Zsombor Papp
At 07:54 AM 7/12/2003 +, Hemingway wrote: hebn wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes. how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed 1500 bytes(more than 122 links in one area)? I've browsed through the other responses, and

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-12 Thread Hemingway
Zsombor Papp wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:54 AM 7/12/2003 +, Hemingway wrote: hebn wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes. how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed 1500 bytes(more than 122 links in

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-12 Thread Zsombor Papp
At 10:15 PM 7/12/2003 +, Hemingway wrote: Zsombor Papp wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:54 AM 7/12/2003 +, Hemingway wrote: hebn wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes. how does cisco router propagate router-lsa

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-10 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 5:48 AM -0700 7/10/03, Zsombor Papp wrote: I guess our views on OSPF are slightly different. I will now release the stage to the next how to increase the value of the CCIE certification thread... :) Thanks, Zsombor Zsombor, I appreciate the discussion. I've been running at low speed due

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-10 Thread Zsombor Papp
At 07:41 PM 7/10/2003 +, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 5:48 AM -0700 7/10/03, Zsombor Papp wrote: I guess our views on OSPF are slightly different. I will now release the stage to the next how to increase the value of the CCIE certification thread... :) Thanks, Zsombor Zsombor, I

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 5:48 AM -0700 7/10/03, Zsombor Papp wrote: I guess our views on OSPF are slightly different. I will now release the stage to the next how to increase the value of the CCIE certification thread... :) Thanks, Zsombor Zsombor, I appreciate the

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 2:42 AM + 7/9/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 10:46 PM + 7/8/03, Zsombor Papp wrote: The LSA will be fragmented at the IP layer. Do you know for certain this is what Cisco's implementation does? The OSPF code is aware of the MTU and can build

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-09 Thread Zsombor Papp
The original question (as I understood) was about a single LSA that is larger than 1500 bytes (think Type 1 LSA for a router with 200 interfaces). I can't see how such an LSA could be divided into multiple OSPF messages so the only logical (implementation independent) solution seems to be to

RE: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hebn wrote: hello,everyone: OSPF use raw socket (datagram) to communicate with peers. In general, layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes. how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed 1500 bytes(more than 122 links in one area)? Well, I don't have a definite

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Zsombor Papp wrote: The original question (as I understood) was about a single LSA that is larger than 1500 bytes (think Type 1 LSA for a router with 200 interfaces). I can't see how such an LSA could be divided into multiple OSPF messages so the only logical (implementation independent)

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-09 Thread Zsombor Papp
At 05:14 PM 7/9/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Zsombor Papp wrote: The original question (as I understood) was about a single LSA that is larger than 1500 bytes (think Type 1 LSA for a router with 200 interfaces). I can't see how such an LSA could be divided into multiple

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 12:43 PM + 7/9/03, Zsombor Papp wrote: The original question (as I understood) was about a single LSA that is larger than 1500 bytes (think Type 1 LSA for a router with 200 interfaces). I can't see how such an LSA could be divided into multiple OSPF messages so the only logical

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 12:43 PM + 7/9/03, Zsombor Papp wrote: The original question (as I understood) was about a single LSA that is larger than 1500 bytes (think Type 1 LSA for a router with 200 interfaces). I can't see how such an LSA could be divided into multiple OSPF

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-09 Thread Zsombor Papp
At 11:07 PM 7/9/2003 +, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 12:43 PM + 7/9/03, Zsombor Papp wrote: The original question (as I understood) was about a single LSA that is larger than 1500 bytes (think Type 1 LSA for a router with 200 interfaces). I can't see how such an LSA could be divided

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-09 Thread Zsombor Papp
At 11:07 PM 7/9/2003 +, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: Hello packets. IIRC, about 47 router entries can fit into an OSPF hello packet with a 1500 byte MTU. Consider the timing complexities Btw, neighbors are identified by their 4-byte router ID, so it would take more than 350 neighbors to

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 5:40 PM -0700 7/9/03, Zsombor Papp wrote: At 11:07 PM 7/9/2003 +, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 12:43 PM + 7/9/03, Zsombor Papp wrote: The original question (as I understood) was about a single LSA that is larger than 1500 bytes (think Type 1 LSA for a router with 200 interfaces). I

OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread hebn9999
layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes. how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed 1500 bytes(more than 122 links in one area)? __ === [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
hebn wrote: hello,everyone: OSPF use raw socket (datagram) to communicate with peers. In general, layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes. how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed 1500 bytes(more than 122 links in one area)? Well, I don't have a definite

RE: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 9:38 PM + 7/8/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: hebn wrote: hello,everyone: OSPF use raw socket (datagram) to communicate with peers. In general, layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes. I'm not sure I'd call it a strict datagram protocol. In some cases, it's acknowledged

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread Zsombor Papp
The LSA will be fragmented at the IP layer. Thanks, Zsombor At 11:39 AM 7/8/2003 +, hebn wrote: layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes. how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed 1500 bytes(more than 122 links in one area)? Message Posted at:

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 10:46 PM + 7/8/03, Zsombor Papp wrote: The LSA will be fragmented at the IP layer. Do you know for certain this is what Cisco's implementation does? The OSPF code is aware of the MTU and can build OSPF packets for it. I don't think you're really going to simplify it by relieving it of

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread Zsombor Papp
The original question (as I understood) was about a single LSA that is larger than 1500 bytes (think Type 1 LSA for a router with 200 interfaces). I can't see how such an LSA could be divided into multiple OSPF messages so the only logical (implementation independent) solution seems to be to

Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 10:46 PM + 7/8/03, Zsombor Papp wrote: The LSA will be fragmented at the IP layer. Do you know for certain this is what Cisco's implementation does? The OSPF code is aware of the MTU and can build OSPF packets for it. I don't think you're really going