Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
This isn't an actual answer to your question about BSC and SDLC, which Howard can do, but for all of you wondering about this issue, I recommend chapter 3 of Tannenbaum, "Computer Networks." He goes into lots of interesting details about how to allocate a single broadcast channel among competi

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-24 Thread John Nenye
Howard, Does is it really matter if it is BSC or SDLC multidrop network. In an IBM SDLC network you are dealing with Master/SLave design so you will never get collisions becuase the Master controlls the transmission time Most are full duplex, so in those cases, no you shouldn't.. > >Brian "So

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-24 Thread Dennis H
Thanks for sharing questions from the CCIE written... let us know if you have any more... ""Wright, Jeremy"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Can you have collisions on a serial link? Thanks again. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050] ASCII art got [7:17085]

2001-08-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>At 05:23 PM 8/23/01, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: >> >Most are full duplex, so in those cases, no you shouldn't.. >> > >> >Brian "Sonic" Whalen >> >Success = Preparation + Opportunity >> > >> > >> >On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Wright, Jeremy wrote: >> > >> > > Can you have collisions on a serial

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>At 05:23 PM 8/23/01, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: >> >Most are full duplex, so in those cases, no you shouldn't.. >> > >> >Brian "Sonic" Whalen >> >Success = Preparation + Opportunity >> > >> > >> >On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Wright, Jeremy wrote: >> > >> > > Can you have collisions on a serial

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 8/23/01 3:29:24 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Subj: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050] Date: 8/23/01 3:29:24 PM Central Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wright, Jeremy) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wri

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 05:23 PM 8/23/01, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > >Most are full duplex, so in those cases, no you shouldn't.. > > > >Brian "Sonic" Whalen > >Success = Preparation + Opportunity > > > > > >On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Wright, Jeremy wrote: > > > > > Can you have collisions on a serial link? Thanks agai

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread John Neiberger
When I first started at the bank as a teller, we were running 9600 bps multidrop lines. but, luckily for me, I was blissfully unaware of anything related to networking at the time, so I didn't notice. ;-) By the time I started in the department we had upgraded to 56k frame relay with Motorola F

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>I think this is actually more of a CCNP troubleshooting question. Think >about the type of media you're dealing with. Collisions happen on media >that allow multiple devices to speak at the same time. If the media or >topology does not allow multiple access then you cannot have >collisions. >

RE: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread John Neiberger
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050] I

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread Stephane LITKOWSKI
I agree with you. Serial link is not always full duplex. It depends of the relation between the two entities : primary/secondary (Normal mode : SDLC -> SNRM frame) or Balance mode (LAPB -> SABM frame). -- Stephane LITKOWSKI Student in a french computer science school EPITA Telecom & Network spe

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread Brian Whalen
Tis why I said most and shouldn't :) I expected the longtime lurkers to come back with a couple that weren't full duplex. Brian "Sonic" Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > >Most are full duplex, so in those cases, no you shouldn't.. > >

RE: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread Wright, Jeremy
ECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050] I think this is actually more of a CCNP troubleshooting question.

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread John Neiberger
I think this is actually more of a CCNP troubleshooting question. Think about the type of media you're dealing with. Collisions happen on media that allow multiple devices to speak at the same time. If the media or topology does not allow multiple access then you cannot have collisions. On mos

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>Most are full duplex, so in those cases, no you shouldn't.. > >Brian "Sonic" Whalen >Success = Preparation + Opportunity > > >On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Wright, Jeremy wrote: > > > Can you have collisions on a serial link? Thanks again. > I'm in general agreement, but be aware that you might run i

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread Stephane LITKOWSKI
A serial link, is not a shared media. Serial link is used for point to point connection => no collision U can have collision if Tx is connected on Tx on the other side of the cable, but if the cable and interfaces (X21, V24 ...) are good, there's no collision. -- Stephane LITKOWSKI Student in a

Re: Another CCIE Written Question [7:17050]

2001-08-23 Thread Brian Whalen
Most are full duplex, so in those cases, no you shouldn't.. Brian "Sonic" Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Wright, Jeremy wrote: > Can you have collisions on a serial link? Thanks again. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17052