Re: CSMA/CD : full duplex

2000-05-10 Thread Vern Stitt
Full duplex does not require CSMA/CD. Full duplex requires a switch. Transmit and receive are done on separate wires to a switch. The switch then performs all arbitration internally. This theoretically makes 200Mbps possible, if the transmit and receive pipes are both kept full at 100Mbps. Hal

Re: CSMA/CD : full duplex

2000-05-10 Thread Joe Martin
Full duplex transmission requires a point to point connection between two devices. This is achieved using a switch. Since the connection is between two and only two devices at a time, this allows them to transmit and receive at the same time. Thus a collision would never occur and CSMA/CD is un

Re: CSMA/CD : full duplex

2000-05-10 Thread woody
Actually CSMA/CD is still required. When communicating through a switch, the TX (towards the switch) is guaranteed the full bandwidth towards the switch. However the inbound (RX from the switch) may be carrying traffic from more than one originating host. As such, collisions may still occur if

Re: CSMA/CD : full duplex

2000-05-10 Thread Neiby
When using full duplex, both stations may transmit and receive simultaneously, so no arbitration is needed. This is why collisions can't happen when using full duplex: the transmission and reception circuits are completely separate, so collisions cannot occur. << Sorry to ask such a simple qu

RE: CSMA/CD : full duplex

2000-05-10 Thread Clayton Dukes
Title: RE: CSMA/CD : full duplex As a side note, Full Dup and CSMA/CD are impossible to have together, since Full dup uses separate paths (wires) there can be no collisions. === Clayton Dukes Sr. Network Engineer Landstar System, Inc. Jacksonville, FL 904-390-1109 http

Re: CSMA/CD : full duplex

2000-05-11 Thread woody
Further to my original post... It is possible to get collisions on a Full Duplex segment. Transmission from the switch towards the destination is a shared bandwidth domain (with other originating hosts transmitting towards the same destination). As such collisions may occur on the transmit from

Re: CSMA/CD : full duplex

2000-05-11 Thread Flem
When Cisco says "Full Duplex", they typically refer to the MAC layer function of transmitting and receiving at the same time. This is accomplished on ethernet by uncoupling the Collision Detection circuit, and buffering TX and RX in separate queues. There is no internal 'CSMA/CD' in Cisco switch

RE: CSMA/CD : full duplex

2000-05-12 Thread Morris, Iain (EDS)
11 May 2000 10:22 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CSMA/CD : full duplex > > Further to my original post... > > It is possible to get collisions on a Full Duplex segment. Transmission > from the switch towards the destination is a shared bandwidth domai

Re: CSMA/CD : full duplex

2000-05-10 Thread Vern Stitt
It is my understanding that the CSMA/CD function is handled by the switch internally before the output frame is sent to the device. We recently had a thread on late collisions that mentioned as a possible source a NIC set to full-duplex that was connected to a half-duplex hub. Since CSMA/CD was d