Re: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-13 Thread michael champion
If you look at page 432, Table 9.1 in Doyle's "Routing TCP/IP" for the OSPF interface state machine, you will see clearly that one of the events (6). is "the expiration of the RouterDeadInterval without having received a Hello from the DR or the BDR or both", which changes directly to the DR/BDR e

Re: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
"David Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, >This has been an awesome thread to me. Thanks everyone for the input. >Evidently I'm not alone in being confused over BDR to DR promotion. The >books and literature I've found have clearly stated that the event to >promote BDR's to DR's is a missed L

Re: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-13 Thread David Armstrong
This has been an awesome thread to me. Thanks everyone for the input. Evidently I'm not alone in being confused over BDR to DR promotion. The books and literature I've found have clearly stated that the event to promote BDR's to DR's is a missed LSA; however, the tests here show otherwise. Winsto

Re: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-12 Thread Frank B.
LSAs or hello packets determine when the BDR takes over for the > dead DR. I hope they never ask this question on any test. > > Winston. > > -Original Message- > From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 8:39 PM > To: Matth

Re: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-11 Thread Ed Moss
If you look at the RFC, I believe there are only BDR elections. When a new segment comes up, a BDR is elected, then promoted to DR, then the BDR is elected again. Ed > Of some interest - the debug ip ospf hello and debug ip ospf events were > silent immediately after unplugging the DR. It was o

RE: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-11 Thread Shaw, Winston Mr.
question on any test. Winston. -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 8:39 PM To: Matthew Herman; David Armstrong; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Some OSPF Questions Just to put in some empirical data, I set up two routers on an

RE: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-11 Thread Chuck Larrieu
ay that this is not what happens. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matthew Herman Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 9:56 AM To: David Armstrong; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Some OSPF Questions I'll throw my hat in.

RE: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-11 Thread Shaw, Winston Mr.
24 AM To: David Armstrong; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Some OSPF Questions You couldn't be more right! I jumped the gun. My response to your question 1) was incorrect. The BDR to Dr transition doesn't use the Hello protocol. The BDR listens to the LSAs from other routers (non-DR/BD

Re: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-10 Thread Frank B.
ct? > > Thanks, > > David Armstrong > > -Original Message- > From: Frank B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: November 10, 2000 1:49 PM > To: David Armstrong > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECT

RE: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-10 Thread Brian
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Matthew Herman wrote: > > >You ran OSPF to customers? So you were selling them transit and used > >OSPF? I imagine the evil a customer could do to your network if they had > > access to an OSPF neighbor router. > > I did not say it was bright. They had multiple T-1's

RE: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-10 Thread Matthew Herman
tes from me but I did not learn from them. That is pretty common I think. -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 11:28 AM To: Matthew Herman Cc: David Armstrong; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Some OSPF Questions On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, M

Re: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-10 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 9:49 AM -1000 11/10/2000, Frank B. wrote: > >3) I've never had a need to use 2 OSPF process but Someone already >stated it being used to transition/migrate and that seems >reasonable...but keep in mind you'd have duplicate everything! I would >imagine the strain on resources, say for the netwo

Re: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-10 Thread Frank B.
David, It appears you have received conflicting guidance on your question...I'll throw my 2 cents in but I hope I don't add to the confusion: 1) RouterDeadInterval is the legth of time a router waits for a Hello packet from a neighbor before declaring it down...the same timer is used by t

RE: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-10 Thread Brian
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Matthew Herman wrote: > I'll throw my hat in.. > > 1. .5 seconds (50 msec) (Chapter 7, p142 exam cram acrc) you sure you're not thinking of HSRP? > 2. yes, there will be only one DR and its your single point of failure as > well 8->. But not on PtP links, Their is no DR e

Re: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-10 Thread Brian
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, David Armstrong wrote: > Last night at our BSCN study group meeting in Dallas we had some questions > about OSPF that we weren't able to resolve. If someone or ones could answer > these it would clarify some areas we're a little fuzzy on. Also, if you're > iin the Dallas Ft.

Re: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-10 Thread Peter Van Oene
Comments inserted below. >1) What is the default time period that the BDR waits when listening to >LSA's from the DR before it decides that the DR is down and promotes itself >to DR. All the literature we could find simply said that the BDR waits for >the specified time period but never said wha

RE: Some OSPF Questions

2000-11-10 Thread Matthew Herman
I'll throw my hat in.. 1. .5 seconds (50 msec) (Chapter 7, p142 exam cram acrc) 2. yes, there will be only one DR and its your single point of failure as well 8->. 3. doh...I have set up multiple as's on one router when I had multiple customer and redistributed into my AS. It worked ok but I am